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Chad Carter
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As far as Vertigo is concerned, I could see JB on a Western title where he gets to cut loose on some ultra-violence. Might be strangely cathartic.
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Michael Heide
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You seem to be having a great deal of trouble
with basic English, Michael. Again, my first post postulates an
environment at Marvel which would make it possible for me to return. No
"never going back, but what it?" scenario here. As to why? Well, if "pure fantasy" is of no interest to you, why read superhero comics at all? Why are you even here? |
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I'm here because I'd love to see you back at Marvel. But it doesn't seem very likely that the current editors and the editor-in-chief will go away in the next couple of years, neither will the current direction of their books.
You thinking about working for a Marvel that lets you cut loose, that returns the status quo of their characters to the point where you could imagine working on them again, a Marvel universe without a Winter Soldier, without the "Initiative", without Dr. Strange in the Avengers or a Black Panther that is married to Storm, you thinking about working for that kind of Marvel - well, I think it's the first step. So in my eyes, the next logical step would be to find a compromise both sides can live with. Find a corner of the Marvel universe where you can blend out whatever they are doing in the main books. Where you can tell the stories you want to tell. Where you can show New Marvel, that Old Marvel still works, that it was never broke and didn't need to be fixed.
I think the Guardians of the Galaxy would be perfect for that. And I promise I'd buy three copies each month.
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Chad Carter
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| Posted: 29 July 2007 at 1:08pm | IP Logged | 3
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Creator-owned stuff. Forget Marvel (unless it's Golden Age stuff). I won't say forget DC because I love the B-list characters.
How hard is it to get a creator-owned project off the ground, JB?
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Jeremy Boyd
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| Posted: 29 July 2007 at 1:17pm | IP Logged | 4
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Does it seem like a crazy idea for Marvel to publish a line of comics for
fanboys (or whoever their current target audience is) and a line of comics for
fans who like to read super hero comics in the classic tradition of the 60s/
70s/80s?
I pick up the odd book and look at it in the store and I find them
inaccessible... Judging by the posts here, there must be a few people out
there who feel the same.
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Paul Greer
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Jeremy, I think Marvel had intentions to do this with the Marvel Knights and MAX lines being aimed at the older audience. Then somehow they all got shoved together and there is hardly a MK or MAX line any longer. It's all become the Marvel U. aimed at the aging audience. Younger audiences (14 and under) or folks looking for the classic versions don't seem to be in the equation.
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Darren De Vouge
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The Invaders (Absolutely. Perfect fit)
Dr. Strange definitely requires an artist that can draw really ornate detail and can mimic Ditko, as JB can. Plus, Strange has been floundering for years and would benefit much from a "back-to-basics" approach.
Guardians of the Galaxy (This would definitely be interesting to see)
Black Panther. Sounds like fun. But it might be seen as being similar to the Namor series from the 90's. (The adventures of a wealthy super hero/king from a far away place, living in NY)
Kazar in NY was already tried by Marvel in the late 90's. It got cancelled.
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Darren De Vouge
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If JB did a western series, I'd like to see either the original Ghost Rider or the Two-Gun Kid.
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Brian Floyd
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Throw in Gunhawk for a few appearances and I'd buy it, Darren.
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Josh Smith
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I don't want to cloud the issue with facts, but Marvel has an entire all-ages line that sells really well and are good books, too. Peter David writes the Spider-Man one. The X-Men: First Class is great and very old-school, as well!
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Andrew Kneath
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Does it seem like a crazy idea for Marvel to publish a line of comics for
fanboys (or whoever their current target audience is) and a line of comics for
fans who like to read super hero comics in the classic tradition of the 60s/
70s/80s?
I have in the past proposed a Marvel Classic Line. In execution it would work pretty much the same way as the Ultimate Line except it would feature the classic iconic versions of the characters including a pre marriage Spider-Man. Ideally it would feature creators like JB and Roger Stern and would start off with just the core titles, Avengers, Fantastic Four, X-Men and Spider-Man.
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Paul Greer
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Josh, there is nothing wrong with the all-ages line Marvel is putting out. But the fact that Marvel's core titles were all-ages for close to thirty-five years and then changed to suit the needs of a portion of the aging fanbase is what is off putting to the remaining portion. Most people see Marvel Adventures as a "kiddie" line (which for the last few years creators and internet fans alike falsely treated the two terms as being synonymous). While I hope these titles do reach those eight year old readers Quesada doesn't believe exist. They need to do much more reaching out to lost fans than these books. That could easily be done by turning their core titles back to be all-ages.
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John Byrne
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If JB did a western series, I'd like to see either the original Ghost Rider or the Two-Gun Kid. •• Given that I have a page of his original art, by Kirby and Ayers, on the wall of my studio, I think I would rather do what I can to redeme the Rawhide Kid. He deserves better than to go out as fodder for a bunch of homophobic pansy jokes.
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