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Kyle Sing Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 06 August 2005 Location: United States Posts: 261
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Hi Guys,
I was wondering why it is that there seems to be a greater presence of DC in the UK versus Marvel?
JB has written that Marvel comics were scarce when he was a kid in the UK and his first comic were DC. Moreover, there seem to be many more notable runs on DC heroes by British writers than Marvel, or at least it seems that way.
Any input from the British forum members on this one?
Thanks,
Kyle
Edited by Kyle Sing on 19 August 2008 at 9:42pm
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Joel Tesch Byrne Robotics Member

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Well, when JB was a kid, DC was long established and Marvel was still a new "up and comer" would have led to DC being more prevalent when he was a kid.
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Paul Lloyd Byrne Robotics Member

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Interesting - I would have thought the opposite - Marvel has a greater presence in the UK. When I was a kid (1970s) Marvel UK were publishing "The Mighty World of Marvel" and "Spiderman Comics Weekly"... there was nothing similar from DC.
And prior to the "Mighty World of Marvel", some Marvel stories were being printed in comics like "Pow!" as well as Alan Class publications like "Creepy Worlds".
Also, Marvel UK launched a couple of original Marvel Universe characters here - Captain Britain, Nightraven, The Knights of Pendragon - as well as writing original stories (not reprints) featuring existing characters like the Hulk and the Black Knight.
Eaglemoss decided to launch their Marvel figurine collection before the DC collection.
British writers and artists do tend to work more for DC, though.
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Bob Neill Byrne Robotics Member

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Just what was available from DC in the UK prior to about 1980? The black-and-white magazine THE SUPERHEROES MONTHLY launched that year, and in one issue of that title, Bob Rozakis (doing a 'British edition' of the Answer Man) confirmed a reader's assumption that DC titles were easier to obtain since the switch from 17 to 25 pages (cover date Sep. 1980-price increase from 40 to 50 cents for US readers).
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Gordon Somers Byrne Robotics Member

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When I was younger (70's/80's), US Marvel comics had a lot better distribution in our Newsagents (even though that was still rubbish), with only an occasional DC comic visible on the racks. As stated above it was a lot easier to get the UK reprints and these tended to favour Marvel (I also cannot think of a DC reprint title in the 70's, although there was an occasional Batman or Superman annual).
I think the majority of UK artists/writers working for DC happenened because a) DC specifically had a UK recruitment drive in the 80's; and b) the UK writers/artists they got in the first place were fans of DC comics since the majority grew up in late 50's/early 60's.
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Bill Collins Byrne Robotics Member

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What DC product we did get in the 70`s was the campy stuff,Marvel seemed so much more mature and `real`.As stated previously we had Marvel UK reprint mags that really pushed the brand over here,along with the distributed U.S. books.
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Rob Spalding Byrne Robotics Member

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In terms of now - I think there are more Panini Marvel reprints on the shelves of my local newsagent than DC. But in bookshops there tend to be more DC/Vertigo TPBs than Marvel.
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John Caliber Byrne Robotics Member

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Ah, I remember the Superheroes monthly fondly - however few issues I was able to locate! I remember them as having painted covers, but am not totally certain.
I also remember 'pocketbook'-sized DC reprints in the late 1970s/early 1980s? I go my first taste of Solomon Grundy and the Justice League of America from them, maybe also the seminal Batman run featuring Deadshot, the Jokerfish and Bruce Wayne's luscious, silver-haired girlfriend. What the heck was the name of the bald, bespectacled madman who imprisoned Batman in a 'hospital'?
DC reprints featured also in the hardback annuals; Batman and Superman seemed to get top billing.
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John Peter Britton Byrne Robotics Member

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I never had a problem with getting Marvel in the early 1960's plus our funny comic's like Wham and Smash and Pow and Terrific and Fantastic had reprints of Marvel and DC even the company i worked at reprinted the stuff i did a bit of colouring on Spider-Man reprints in the 60's
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John Mariani Byrne Robotics Member

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John Caliber asks
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If I recall correctly, that was none other than Dr. Hugo Strange. I still own the Batman pocketbook that collected the brilliant Englehart-Rogers run on "Detective Comics". What a bargain!
I'm quite old and I've been reading comics (both British and American) since the early 60's. I never had too much trouble getting a hold of DC and Marvel comics from general newsagents (I used to live across the street from a newsagents -- good ol' Mrs. Rafferty -- and I used to buy a few issues everyday. I didn't get pocket money, I just got "money for comics" ...). The first Marvel I remember buying was FF issue 4.
Like John Peter Britton says
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| I never had a problem with getting Marvel in the early 1960's plus our
funny comic's like Wham and Smash and Pow and Terrific and Fantastic
had reprints of Marvel and DC even the company i worked at reprinted
the stuff i did a bit of colouring on Spider-Man reprints in the 60's |
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I believe it was Fleetway (later IPC) who published the "standard style" British comics of the 60's that he mentions. And yes, they did introduce Marvel comics to British comics. (I have a vague memory of a comic called "Buster" that reprinted what I imagine must have been "Superman" Sunday strips ...).
But I don't think DC ever had any superiority over Marvel in the UK. Certainly now, with Marvel UK / Panini's output, you'd have to think that Marvel has had the superiority for some time.
(By the way, I lament the death of the UK Comic ... back in the 60's there were a multitude of titles. Beano, Dandy, Topper, Beezer, Sparky, Buster, Whizzer and Chips, Wham, Pow, Smash, Victor, Hotspur, Hornet, Wizard, Lion, Tiger, Valiant, TV 21, TV Comic, TV Tornado ... and many more I'm sure I've momentarily forgotten ...)
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John Peter Britton Byrne Robotics Member

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Yes the good old days John Mariani.
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Gerry Turnbull Byrne Robotics Member

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other than christmas annuals,Marvel always had a bigger presence in the UK,with pow and terrific reprinting US titles like Thor,before Marvel UK got up and running
american marvels always seemed to have better distribution when i was groing up in the 70's,newsagents would have a huge pile of Marvels,with a handfull of DC's mixed in.In the early 80's DC published a black and white reprint title mentioned up thread which lasted about 18 issues or so.nowadays you can go into the newsagent and buy UK Marvel(panini) titles with new UK exclusive spider-man etc.
Edited by Gerry Turnbull on 20 August 2008 at 9:01am
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