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Jodi Moisan
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Posted: 11 April 2010 at 1:58pm | IP Logged | 1  

Brad well said.

But you aren't American and always wear a flag pin, while condemning gays and commies, so I really don't care what you have to say. ;0) heehee


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Brad Krawchuk
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Jodi, just because I've been a fan of Queer as Folk since it started airing, and I think socialized medicine is the way to go, and I prefer discussion to violence in conflict resolution, doesn't mean I'm not American. 

It just means I'm a better form of American we all like to call Canadian. 
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I agree, Brad.

I also agree, looking back at a week of posts, that I need to try to improve my phone-typing. Yikes! Look at all the typos! My real computer is finally back from the shop, so there will be some somewhat legible posts here and there, one hopes!

Who knew a day would come when I would be debating our black President with other people on a virtual message board using my telephone? And that John Byrne would be there? If I could tell the 11 year old Mike O'Brien that, he'd look at me and say, "What the fuck is the 'in-ter-net' you old bald fool?!" and then he'd probably stab me... so... hm. Maybe I shouldn't get too deep into this whole time travel thing...

But, yes, I agree, Brad. We can do better. I mentioned this idea a few posts back now - that we need more ... you know... Pride. Self-Respect. Don't leave the house in pyjammas. Don't talk on your cell-phone at a funeral. Don't call your waitress a cunt. Etc.

There's something to be said for, you know, indoor plumbing, electricity, science, a full mouth full of teeth, education, etc. According to Palin, that sort of evil witch thinking excludes me from being a "real American".

Ah well...

Hey, in other news - so Matthew, you've read the Health Reform bill cover to cover - why don't you tell us what it says about the whole malpractice insurance thing? You know, the talking point that Republicans say would fix everything?

HINT: The bill does address the malpractice insurance concern.

Is there anything Barack Obama CAN'T do??

Other than keep a GOD DAMNED DEMOCRAT in Ted Kennedy's seat?   Still... That Brown kid? He's more liberal than a giant chunk of our Dems in Congress, so the joke might be on the Republicans on that one...

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Posted: 11 April 2010 at 2:18pm | IP Logged | 4  

Victor I think they would put a white anything over a black person every single time.

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Im unsure of the rules but I always thought sexist goes before racist. But who know Obama has this type in a foaming rage. They would probably support gay marriage if Obama tried to outlaw it.
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Yeah, Jodi - that bugs me - the way we raise our kids. When I was a kid, I was allowed to roam all over San Francisco - had to do something while mom was at work.

I had all sorts of crazy adventures. My dad did the same in SF when he was a kid.

He now has a pair of teen boys, and they live in San Mateo - a suburb of San Francisco, and those kids have never left the house alone. Either of them!

And look - let's not fool ourselves for one second - things are no worse now than they used to be. People got killed, kidnapped, whatever, all the time when my dad and I were kids. We just culturally accept the culture of fear now.

So, yeah, that's a concern.

But having said that... I think it would be fair to say that it was the Youth of America who managed to get Obama elected. Not just in their numbers, but influencing their parents and grandparents. One of many factors - Victor is right that Palin scared off a lot of sane Republicans, but as many sane people as she scares off, she sure brings a lot of insane people out of the woodwork.

I also blame young people for Bush, too - I remember in the 2000 election, I was still in college and the kids were all ... you know... too smart for their own good, if you will. They all thought, Well, Gore is ok, but we can do better, so let's all vote for Nader or write in Mario Cuomo or whatever, and it drove me nuts - clearly, whatever failings Gore had, he was better than Bush, and if you're not voting for Gore, you're basically giving Bush another vote.

But all over America, college kids held their noses and voted for Nader or stayed home and smoked their bongs and ate fruit loops and look where it got us.

Fucking college kids.

But they sure as hell woke up, shook off that could of pot haze and redeemed themselves with Obama.

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Victor! You're a genius!

That's exactly what Obama needs to do - get it all on record so he can take credit after the fact, but he needs to start doing a Bugs Bunny and saying the opposite of what he wants, so that the Republicans will support it.

You all remember how they supported Rape when Franken introduced the Anti-Rape bill right?

Republicans are a god-damned embarrassment, but that doesn't mean we can't use them to our advantage.

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Posted: 11 April 2010 at 2:31pm | IP Logged | 7  

Looking at the States now, it's almost like seeing the Renaissance play in reverse. Is this some kind of backlash from 500 years of artistic, scientific, social, and political development? 

Is 55 years really too short a time to go from "you can't sit here on this bus!" to "Welcome to the White House, Mr. President!" 

I'm not a tea bagger so I don't advocate killing political opponents, but there are days I wish people like Sarah Palin would manage to get themselves eaten by a polar bear or something. Seriously, if Hannity, Beck, and O'Reilly were to go off the air for a month, I think the break from all the shit they shovel would instantly make the overall intelligence of the nation go up 25%, which would be enough to actually do some real good. 
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One of many factors - Victor is right that Palin scared off a lot ofsane Republicans, but as many sane people as she scares off, she surebrings a lot of insane people out of the woodwork.
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I don't think these people really vote. They like walking around yelling and cussing but not voting. Or at least thats my view.


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I also blameyoung people for Bush, too - I remember in the 2000 election, I wasstill in college and the kids were all ... you know... too smart fortheir own good, if you will. They all thought, Well, Gore is ok, but wecan do better, so let's all vote for Nader or write in Mario Cuomo orwhatever, and it drove me nuts - clearly, whatever failings Gore had,he was better than Bush, and if you're not voting for Gore, you'rebasically giving Bush another vote.

I have HBO so I can catch Bill Maher say something stupid/make an ass of himself. This time he was doing that old lie of how both parties are the same. I honestly want to punch someone in the face who says that, I think the last eight years have taught us that is a crock of bullshit. If you lived thru the Bush administration and think that you are a motherfudging dum dum. 


I might disagree with Obama at timse but I understand that the alternative is way worse. 
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If I was in charge of the democratic party, I would be running commercials up until may showing all the bad behavior of the tea party events, the picking on that handicap guy, the yelling Nigger go home and the faggot comment and showing all the stills from the events with racist signs and I would say nothing, but at the end, it would read : "If you don't get out and vote, you are letting these guys run the country." 
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I move to install Jodi Moisan as head of the Democratic Party.
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Gotta "love" John Boehner's, et al, opinion of some of the Capital Hill staffers:  LINK.
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I move to install Jodi Moisan as head of the Democratic Party.

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She has my vote.

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