Michael Sommerville wrote: I dont think an opinion can be wrong.

Sure it can.  Happens all the time.  I'm not speaking specifically about anything said in this thread by anyone, but the general notion that "opinions can't be wrong."  Late last week it was someone's "observed opinion" that Jack Kirby was lazy later in life because of the kind of work he put out.  By your definition, that opinion can't be wrong.  Except it is.  Kirby's output slowed down and was changed due to age and ill health, not because he was lazy.  That is but one example of many, particularly as happens on message boards, blogs, tweets, and status updates every minute of every day. A person can have an opinion about any of a number of subjects that is actually wrong. 

Ah, if what was said about Jack Kirby was stated as fact you are correct, if it was an opinion that person has every right to have it. If i'm not mistaken alot of people gave their opinions about why this was untrue. It is the strength of an argument that changes opinions. I do not think anyone on this board is privy to all the facts in this case, I could be mistaken though. Also I believe if in that case the person didn't feel attacked those opinions would definately have held more weight.

Fact and opinion are to totally different monsters.

I'll take a lazy Kirby over ten energetic modern day superstars any day of the week. 

And I'll still owe you some change. 

Brad I commend you for having agreed to Mike O'Brien's thoughts. Having weighed both sides of the discussion you came to your conclusion. Just do not condem those who do not accept the argument that white society is as a whole racist.

I just have to say, to compare the output of Jack Kirby in later years to that of in his prime is extremely unfair. From what I have read and watched he was a monster in the amount and quality of work he was producing in his prime.

Not to derail the topic currently happening, which I find fascinating (and just for the record, I agree with Mike O'Brien) but I saw this little nugget all over Fox News-----

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/opinions/view/opinion/47-Perc ent-Dont-Pay-Taxes-No-Big-Deal-3230

------and have to wonder why I never saw this on the very same "news" channel----

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/04/06/exxon-tax/

Now Exxon has updated the story that they do indeed pay taxes to the U.S., and it's a substantial amount, but they won't disclose it to anyone. If you were getting the bad publicity they were, wouldn't you reveal just to shut people up?

In the same story it is revealed that General Electric had 10.3 billion in pre-tax income, and not only did they not owe any taxes, they had a tax benefit of 1.1 billion. Bank of America had a tax benefit of 1.9 billion. They actually paid less taxes than I did last year and I'm unemployed. Are you kidding me? We gave these asswipes billions of our money to stay afloat, and they paid no taxes last year? And yes, they had a profit.

Here is the story from Forbes-------

http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/01/ge-exxon-walmart-business-w ashington-corporate-taxes.html

Michael Sommerville wrote: Ah, if what was said about Jack Kirby was stated as fact you are correct, if it was an opinion that person has every right to have it.

But they don't.  No one has a right to an opinion that is verifiably wrong.