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Jodi Moisan
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| Posted: 17 April 2010 at 10:27am | IP Logged | 1
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My guess there will be no tea bagging protests over this. What a bunch of crap!
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Robert Cosgrove
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| Posted: 17 April 2010 at 11:19am | IP Logged | 2
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Perhaps the tea partiers won't protest because they agree with the take of economist Larry Linsdey in his memo to John Boehner: ?
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Matthew McCallum
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Looks like I've got another long Act to read to find out what all the hubbub is about...
Edited by Matthew McCallum on 17 April 2010 at 11:34am
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Dan Avenell
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| Posted: 17 April 2010 at 11:42am | IP Logged | 4
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"But he said, "What is impossible with men is possible with God."
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I don't really get what the character is trying to say here... That the rich man shouldn't give away his stuff? But he just said they should... That it is harder for a rich man to get in to Heaven etc, but actually it's not hard because in heaven it's not a problem? Poor writing...
Elsewhere doesn't the character say something regarding taxes... render unto Ceasar that which is Caesar's or something..?
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Jodi Moisan
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| Posted: 17 April 2010 at 4:29pm | IP Logged | 5
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Yeah let's not forget who Lawrence Lindsey is, he was the go to guy for George W Bush. Excuse me if I don't say, you had your chance, now let's see if someone else can do a better job because you guys put us in the shitter.
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Matthew McCallum
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| Posted: 17 April 2010 at 8:40pm | IP Logged | 6
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Dan,
Come on, you know the code: lowercase "him" ain't 'Him". Couldn't be more straightforward. (I've admit if I could have used red lettering it would have clearer...)
And you're right about the rendering unto, although one could quibble that dealt with coinage that had Caesar's face displayed upon it. Keeping personalities out of it, I'd translate "render unto America what is America's" and call it good.
So, for those of you scoring at home, "Christian Values" on money: - Give it all up to the poor if riches are the idol between you and God,
- Pay your American taxes in American currency,
- Don't bury your talents (coins) in the field,
- Don't begrudge the man who gets the same pay at you although he only worked the last hour of the day, and
- Don't change your money at the temple.
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Matthew McCallum
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Excuse me if I don't say, you had your chance, now let's see if someone else can do a better job because you guys put us in the shitter.
Jodi, below is a graphic of the vote on the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act which overturned the Glass-Stegall Act which had forbade banks from operating as insurance companies, investment banks and commercial banks all at the same time. That deadly combination contributed to the economic meltdown. Take a look at the vote numbers:
Please note the overwhelming support by both Republicans and Democrats. True bipartisanship on what turned out to be bad legislation. Forget about the Red/Blue arguments: our elected officials by joint effort put us in the crapper.
Rather than rushing through another Act that may have been substantially paid for by the banking industry and leading to other unintended consequences. wouldn't it be better to move deliberately and openly?
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Mike O'Brien
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| Posted: 17 April 2010 at 10:13pm | IP Logged | 8
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... so vote Republican!
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Jodi Moisan
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| Posted: 17 April 2010 at 10:58pm | IP Logged | 9
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Matthew from your chart, more republicans than dems supported the "bad legislation" the legislation was authored by ALL republicans. I am sorry I just don't see why the R's seem to think they have a better idea. And the moment the R's start working with the Dems and listening to some of their ideas instead of demonizing them, I will stop thinking about the Red/Blue argument.
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Michael Sommerville
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Both sides seem to demonize each other, the right just seems more in your face. I don't think most Democrats want to scew the rich anymore than most Republican want to screw the poor. Both groups want a better Country they just see different paths to get there. Neither side is 100% right or 100% wrong.
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Jodi Moisan
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| Posted: 18 April 2010 at 10:33am | IP Logged | 11
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Michael both sides don't do the same thing, when Bush was elected in a very questionable victory the dems didn't become the "spoiled child" party. They voted as individuals and not by "BLOCK" voting, but the moment Obama is elected they have made every attempt to stop anything he does. As Mike points out in the "anti Rape" bill.
The republicans aren't even letting the wall street reform bill come to the floor to be debated.
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Wayde Murray
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| Posted: 18 April 2010 at 11:24am | IP Logged | 12
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So why do those on the left not use the same arguments as those on the right under similar circumstances? When people protested any given policy/activity during the Bush presidency, the right would be very quick to point out that a sitting president during wartime should not be publically taken to task. Solidarity had to be shown, the claim was. Anything less than full support was wrong. So, has the United States not been at war during the Obama presidency? Why has the call not gone out to the various protesters that they must "hate America" if they're openly questioning their Commander-in-Chief during wartime?
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