"Because it's the law. If a person or company feels that it's wrong or a bad law, then fight to change it. What it doesn't empower one to do is to break the law..."

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You clipped the last part of the quote. He said: "What it doesn't empower one to do is to break the law just because they think that they should get something for free at the expense of others."

I think there are appropriate times for civil disobedience. Rosa Parks is a good example.

I went to the liquor store a few minutes ago to get a newspaper. I jaywalked.

I broke the law.

First? Do something about it, you cowards.

Second? Even if you did? What would happen? A small fee? A talking to?

Sure, an unjust law is being broken. What damage is being caused by that law being broken? Is it the same amount of damage that was caused by me jaywalking? Or driving 3 miles over the posted speed on the way home today? Was it about that level of damage?

Or was it, like, the FORGIVABLE kind on the JBF? Where you take a shotgun and tear a man apart in front of his wife and children?

In other news - good tip, Jodi! Thanks!

QUOTE: Nope Blood will be on the state of Arizona. They wanted to make the situation toxic and they can deal with it.

Lovely. So you would justify murder by blaming the state, not the murderer. You would defend the illegal immigrant driving around armed with a deadly weapon and cold blooded enough to gun down a cop who pulls him over because you don't like the way the place is governed.

Sounds eerily like the rhetoric of terrorist sympathizers. They too will justify cold blooded murder by blaming the establishment for the killer's actions while propping up the killer as an oppressed victim. Timothy McVeigh supporters probably blamed the deaths of his victims on the state of Oklahoma too.  

QUOTE: As it is im busy trying to make sure Tim James does not become governor of my state. So ATM I could give a fuck about another state.

You don't seem to give much of a fuck about human life either. Unless of course it's the life of an illegal immigrant. But hey, if as you are predicting, cops in AZ do start getting murdered by illegal immigrants driving around with deadly weapons and the will to use them, maybe you can start calling them "freedom fighters"

Because, you know, I just did a 2 second google search and found a site here of officers killed in the line of duty, and there were a LOT of officers killed, but not too many by immigrants...

http://www.odmp.org/

A lot of these officers were brought down by guns. Are you going to go on record and suggest we ban guns? Or just brown people from Mexico?

QUOTE: Well the guy that tried to blow up the car in Times square looked a certain way, I think we need to card all people that looked like him. And Timothy McVeigh was a tall, skinny white guy, I think we should start carding all of those kind of guys. And the guy that flew his plane into the IRS building in Texas, he wore glasses and looked sort of nerdy, so let's start carding those guys too.

I assume from your witty sarcasm that you have actually read this law. Can you tell me then where in the law it actually stipulates that people are going to be carded for looks and nothing else?

In fact, the law DOES stipulate that the officer has to have probable cause to believe the person has committed a public offense. And if they have in fact committed a public offense, then yes, they may be faced with the horrifying prospect of having to provide ID.

QUOTE: Here's the big issue that some just can't see - it's not that it's trendy to be concerned on behalf of non-whites, or women or homosexuals or non-Christians - it's that they are in the minority, and are exactly the ones that need the concern. Straight White Male Christians are in the majoity in America. They hold the power. No one need to worry abou them. They're doing just fine. It's everyone else who we need to concern ourselves with. When the day comes that the Straight White Christian Male becomes the minority, becomes the oppresssed, becomes the underdog? On that day, I'll start worrying about him. Till then? That guy doesn't need my concern.

That's all fine and dandy Mike, but how about directing some of that concern to the minorities that are truly being insulted here. The LEGAL immigrants. Those who became American citizens through hard work and self education.

Thousands of LEGAL immigrants of all ethnicities.

Have you ever stopped to consider that this vigorous defending of those sneaking across our borders to receive our country's benefits and privileges is dismissing and trivializing the efforts of those immigrants who worked long and hard to earn those same rights and privileges?

If you want to exercise outrage on behalf of minorities and underdogs, why not be outraged on behalf of the legal immigrants who respected our country enough to become part of it legally? And if you don't believe any of them are insulted by this, you haven't been paying attention.

For the record, I embrace legal immigration in this country and I welcome legal immigrants with open arms. I realize that makes it a bit more difficult for some to play the race card, but there it is.