In fact, the law DOES stipulate that the officer has to have probable cause to believe the person has committed a public offense. And if they have in fact committed a public offense, then yes, they may be faced with the horrifying prospect of having to provide ID.

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I think the Arizona law is bullshit, but you need to answer this question for me:

What do you think "probable cause" is?

The way I see it, the law doesn't clearly state that. It makes it way too easy for police to pull you over and ask you for proof of citizenship just because of the color of your skin. Do you think a lot of white guys are going to be asked to provide proof that they belong here? I think you know the answer to that.

And as far as 70% of the American people supporting the law, I'm sure whatever poll they took actually came to that conclusion. However, with right wing radio and Fox News trumpeting the dangers of illegal immigration with little or no basis in the facts, too many people reach a conclusion that is at best invalid and at worst dangerous. The vast majority of illegal's are decent law abiding people who just want a better life for themselves and their families. They are not running around with guns and killing cops.

When all the news focuses on is the bad ones, then laws like this are what happens. Do you really think this is going to do a damn thing to stop the flow of people across our borders? The drug dealers don't give a shit about our laws. The only people this will hurt, is the ones that are just seeking a better life. The criminals will still come, and they're not the ones walking the streets in the middle of the day.

I wish all the people that came to our country, came legally. I also wish our government didn't make it so damn hard for them to do that.

But all laws like this do is hurt people who have done nothing wrong. The bad guys still get away with murder.

By the way Mike, apparently 70% of Americans polled are in favor of the Arizona law.

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You're correct that a "majority" of those polled are in favor of it, but it's 51%:  NY Times poll.

I assume from your witty sarcasm that you have actually read this law. Can you tell me then where in the law it actually stipulates that people are going to be carded for looks and nothing else?

In fact, the law DOES stipulate that the officer has to have probable cause to believe the person has committed a public offense. And if they have in fact committed a public offense, then yes, they may be faced with the horrifying prospect of having to provide ID.

OK please, define "probable cause" for me. I know what it is, let's see if you do.

This law will be challenged and I believe over turned.

Interesting article:The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1941 that the Pennsylvania law was unconstitutional, in part because the U.S. Constitution gives the federal government, not the states, the power over immigration, naturalization and deportation.