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Aaron Smith Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 06 September 2006 Location: United States Posts: 10461
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Posted: 21 February 2010 at 4:09pm | IP Logged | 1
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I just finished reading JB's Doom Patrol run for the first time. I haven't had that much fun with a Big 2 superhero series in a very long time. Besides the obvious quality of the story and art, the thing that made it so enjoyable was my utter lack of previous familiarity with the Doom Patrol. Somehow, although I grew up with Marvel and DC, I managed to miss all previous versions of the Doom Patrol, which meant that I went into this series with very little knowledge of any of the characters, making it similar to the first time I encountered other characters with whom I later became very familiar. Reading this recaptured the fun that we've all experienced when "meeting" characters for the first time. The entire series was fun from start to finish. I only wish it had run longer than 18 issues. Obviously it's rare to feel like a kid again when reading something now, and I often find myself reading more to notice the storytelling methods that go into the work than to actually be engaged in the story. This series accomplished both for me. On the subject of storytelling methods, one little detail stands out as an example of the right way to make a truly "all-ages" superhero story work. At the very end of the last issue, when Cliff gets his updated robot body, the slight change in his costume tells us something without having to hit us over the head with that information in a way that wouldn't be appropriate for younger readers. That's the way it should always be done in superhero comics.
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Joe Hollon Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 08 May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 13736
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Posted: 21 February 2010 at 4:19pm | IP Logged | 2
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JB's DOOM PATROL was my introduction to the characters also. When it was announced I wasn't sure what to think (since I didn't know anything about the characters) and thought I would rather see JB on something I was more familiar with. Turned out I loved the series especially JB's take on Negative Man! A set of consecutive pages from one of the issues is in my art collection (thanks Jim!). Two of my favorite published pages in my collection...Negative Man and a T-Rex!!!
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Wallace Sellars Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 01 May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 17794
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Posted: 21 February 2010 at 7:01pm | IP Logged | 3
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Count me among those who really liked JB's DOOM PATROL. I especially enjoyed it when the focus was on Cliff, Grunt and Nudge.
I wish JB owned the rights to Nudge and Grunt.
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Aaron Smith Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 06 September 2006 Location: United States Posts: 10461
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Posted: 21 February 2010 at 7:06pm | IP Logged | 4
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I know a lot of people have made comparisons between the Doom Patrol and the X-Men and I can see the similarities, but the general tone of JB's Doom Patrol was more of a Fantastic Four type atmosphere, that great blend of science fiction and superheroics that drew me to the FF years ago.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 21 February 2010 at 7:16pm | IP Logged | 5
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Comparing the Patrol to the X- Men is one of those annoying things so often done by those fans who insist upon seizing the most superficial details and turning them into defining elements. Hey! Both terms are led by guys in wheelchairs! So, identical, right?Except, if anyone actually pays attention, the deeper similarities are, indeed, much closer to the FF.
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Paul Greer Byrne Robotics Security

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Posted: 21 February 2010 at 7:17pm | IP Logged | 6
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I absolutely loved JB's run on Doom Patrol. I also had no real knowledge of the characters before JB's run. I wish I would have gotten to know them longer.
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Carmen Bernardo Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 08 August 2006 Location: United States Posts: 3666
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Posted: 21 February 2010 at 7:42pm | IP Logged | 7
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I wonder if the similarities drawn to the X-Men were based upon when the comic came out (1963), the fact that you had a reclusive fellow in a wheelchair leading the team and how the characters didn't seem to blend in with society as a whole.
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Eric Smearman Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 02 September 2006 Location: United States Posts: 5874
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Posted: 21 February 2010 at 8:05pm | IP Logged | 8
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I always thought that the DP was DC's attempt at capturing the flavor of early Marvel, the FF specifically. I wasn't that familiar with the X-Men when I first "met" The Doom Patrol.
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Michael Todd Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 21 February 2010 at 8:05pm | IP Logged | 9
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Both teams the X-Men: The Strangest Super-Heroes of All! and the Doom Patrol: The World`s Strangest Heroes! had a lot of parallels.

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Carmen Bernardo Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 22 February 2010 at 5:13am | IP Logged | 10
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I think of what JB is trying to say above and realize that the Doom Patrol has more in common with the FF and other non-mutant heroes in that their super-powers were derived from accidental circumstances. More like the Hulk and the Thing than Professor X or his students.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 22 February 2010 at 6:22am | IP Logged | 11
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Both teams the X-Men: The Strangest Super-Heroes of All! and the Doom Patrol: The World`s Strangest Heroes! had a lot of parallels.•• "The LEGION of the World's Strangest Heroes". Perhaps you would like to suggest they have a lot in common with the Legion of Superheroes, too? In any case, if you want to dance this dance, it should be remembered that the Doom Patrol made their debut in the June 1963 issue of MY GREATEST ADVENTURE (Love that title!), and the X-Men came along with their own book 3 months later. So it is the X-Men that resemble the Doom Patrol, not the other way 'round. That's if you want to insist that a team of six mutants, five of whom are teenagers, and all of whom have secret identities, are more like a team of four non-mutants composed of a big, strong orange character, an "elastic" character and a flying "flaming" character, none of whom are teenagers, and none of whom have secret identies, than are, say, the Fantastic Four. And that's without invoking the personalities of those characters.
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Lars Johansson Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 04 June 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 6113
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Posted: 22 February 2010 at 6:38am | IP Logged | 12
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I liked it very much but I didn't get some other ones i picked up at a used book store with the guy with a decapitated head, not drawn/written by JB. I have seen them in Stern/JB JLA as well, they looked more like JB's version but I think they were "doppelgangers". I'm not sure which version is which. I believe JB's mini is its own version. The later years JB collectors have been "discriminated" after Doom patrol and blood of the demon were cancelled. It's like aiming a radio signal to Oregon and not to Connecticut, then citizens of Connecticut are discriminated. Added for clarification: I have not in any way written that the writer and artist was discriminated, the readers are the ones who were discriminated when their comics that they want to read were cancelled.
Edited by Lars Johansson on 22 February 2010 at 7:02am
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