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Matt Hawes
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| Posted: April 15 2020 at 7:42pm | IP Logged | 1
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Trumpt trying to push nominees through without Congress.
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Matt Reed
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| Posted: April 16 2020 at 2:04am | IP Logged | 2
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I just looked back. On March 31st I said that Trump hadn't acknowledged nor offered condolences to the then thousands who have died nor those who are mourning those deaths.
He still hasn't and the US is at 23,000+ deaths and counting.
We are, at best, five weeks into this pandemic hitting America with the apex yet to come in many communities and "our leader" hasn't offered a single word of sorrow, of condolence, of heartfelt absence for a single American who has lost their life due to this plague.
Not a single one. Ever.
Imagine, just imagine, if it was anyone other than Trump sitting in the White House. How much shit he'd get, how ostrocized he would be, how much pummeling he would receive from the Republicans? Fuck, Obama wore a tan suit and it was as if the world had turned upside down. Obama had a cup of coffee in his hand exiting Air Force One and saluted with it in his hand and Republicans went apeshit. But they don't now?
Seriously?
Yet Trump can get away with not mentioning a single lost American soul in over five weeks because...why? Why do Republican's give him a pass on things they fucking know they'd crucify any Democrat for doing? And, please, don't say it's just politics. Dems don't have that duplicitous gene that Republicans have for turning what they do when they're IN power into an advantage when they're OUT of power. Dems just don't. And maybe that's our weakness, if you can call it that. If so, fine. I'm good with that. I'd rather be a Dem 7 days a week and twice on election Tuesday.
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James Woodcock
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| Posted: April 16 2020 at 2:34am | IP Logged | 3
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So, does suspension of Congress 'because it won't let me
do what I want to do' count as a dictatorship move?
Your President sounds like he will be saying states can
relax social distancing rules, which will enable him to
then campaign on a 'it wasn't me that forced you into
lockdown and caused any economic impacts' while also
probably spinning the narrative to 'the governors took
the final say in opening you up too early - I just said
they should open up if it was safe to do so' line if
states open up too early and deaths increase.
Mind you. I still think he will try to delay the
election by a year in any case
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Matt Reed
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| Posted: April 16 2020 at 2:44am | IP Logged | 4
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He may try, though I doubt it, and he doesn't have that authority regardless. What he does after the results is a whole 'nuther question.
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Marc Baptiste
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| Posted: April 16 2020 at 3:13am | IP Logged | 5
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Matt,
Under the Constitution he actually does have that power... in "extraordinary" circumstances. However, it's never been done in the history of the republic.
As usual, someone is telling the man what he CAN do as opposed to what he SHOULD do.
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David Teller
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I think if the US isn't careful, you are about to have your own orange haired Emperor Palpatine.
Until the emergency is over... of course.
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Michael Roberts
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| Posted: April 16 2020 at 4:38am | IP Logged | 7
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QUOTE:
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Which is not currently the case.
The clause is:
“he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper.”
The President’s power to adjourn is in the case that the House and Senate are in disagreement with respect to the time of adjournment. They are not. For that to be the case, McConnell would have to call for the Senate to adjourn and get a majority to vote for the resolution to adjourn in-person. That’s would be a hard sell even without the pandemic making it difficult for Senators to travel.
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Michael Roberts
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| Posted: April 16 2020 at 4:40am | IP Logged | 8
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I think if the US isn't careful, you are about to have your own orange haired Emperor Palpatine.
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No, we’re not. Because Palpatine wasn’t an idiot.
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James Johnson
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The President’s power to adjourn is in the case that the House and Senate are in disagreement with respect to the time of adjournment. They are not. For that to be the case, McConnell would have to call for the Senate to adjourn and get a majority to vote for the resolution to adjourn in-person. That’s would be a hard sell even without the pandemic making it difficult for Senators to travel.
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In this day and age, I would put NOTHING PAST McTurtle in his effort to Fuck over the citizens of the US.
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James Woodcock
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| Posted: April 16 2020 at 10:12am | IP Logged | 10
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After the amount of things that he has done, where people
have said 'no he can't', I don't think there is any
stopping him if he decides he wants to.
Absolute power. That's what he actually thinks he has. He
may walk back those statements, but nevertheless, that's
what he thinks he has, and that's how he will act.
It won't be him stopping the delay, the Republicans will
roll over, and the shit storm will commence.
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Brian Miller
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| Posted: April 16 2020 at 11:42am | IP Logged | 11
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Mind you. I still think he will try to delay the
election by a year in any case
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He may very well try. Hell, he may even succeed. But, no matter what,
per the Constitution, as of Jan 20, 2021, he will NOT still be the
President. And Pence will NOT still be VP. Whoever is Speaker of the
House at that time would move into the position until the election would
be held.
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Brian Floyd
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| Posted: April 16 2020 at 12:05pm | IP Logged | 12
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I've predicted in the past that Trump might very well be the first former President literally thrown or dragged out of the White House when his time is up, because he'll refuse to believe or acknowledge it. I have not changed my mind about that.
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