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Mike Norris
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Posted: 25 December 2017 at 3:04pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Yeah, when the X-Men started fighting aliens and demons more than mutants I had to shake my head. 
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In the case of Kang, perhaps mutants are much more commonplace in the 30th century, being the future of human evolution and all. Perhaps Kang could be categorized as a mutant, with his intuitive understanding of science and time as his mutant "power." It wouldn't take much for such a "reveal." Namor after all wasn't a mutant until he was. 

And questions of mutant powers aside, it's worth noting that the X-Men have fought a great many non-mutant villains as well such as Tyrranus, the Cobalt Man, Count Nefaria, Locust, the Stranger, Man-Ape, Lucifer, Porcupine, Eel, Plantman, Scarecrow, Unicorn, the Maggia, Kukulcan, the Z'Nox, and the Super-Adaptoid amongst others. Fighting non-mutants is not in keeping with the first dozen or so X-Men appearances, but it does tally with the rest of the run.

Regarding telepaths, aside from the tiny handful allowed by Eric, the X-Men have ties to the White Queen, Cable, X-Man, Rachel Summers, Quentin Quire, the Stepford Cuckoos, the Phoenix Entity, Xorn, Legion, and others. So, yeah, telepathy's a thing in the MU, especially the X-Men's wide-ranging corner of it.

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Posted: 26 December 2017 at 7:50am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Speaking of specialisms, the best foes to tackle Kang are those used to dealing with time travel and anomalies. The likes of the Fantastic Four and Avengers have had much experience in this area.

I know the X-Men, on at least two occasions I am very familiar with, have had to deal with time anomalies. 

Kang isn't a mutant, but would the X-Men's experiences of time travel assist them in any way (referring to all incarnations of the X-Men, I don't recall the original team dealing with time anomalies in the 60s)?

I'd always wanted to see a Hulk/Kang encounter, but I suspect brute strength would only last so long against Kang the Conqueror!


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Posted: 26 December 2017 at 5:40pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

The Incredible Hulk #135!

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Posted: 26 December 2017 at 5:45pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Also, Robbie, I don't know if the story is still running, but recently, under Bendis's auspices, the original team were temporal anomalies, having been brought to the present by the current Beast in hopes that they might re-awaken Cyclops' idealism or simply learn enough about the present set of circumstances to prevent them from coming about when they return to their own time.

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Posted: 26 December 2017 at 7:21pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Brian, I thank you. Off to the back issue bins (or comiXology) I go for that issue. :)
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You're welcome, sir. Please, mention my name to them when you get there. It's been a while since I've visited... :-)

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Posted: 27 December 2017 at 9:18am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Brian H: "...under Bendis's auspices, the original team were temporal anomalies, having been brought to the present by the current Beast "

So they want to try the "shooting your own grandfather" storyline? And from a supposedly smart character like Hank McCoy? If the X-Men change the past, either they will eliminate their own timeline, or (as per Marvel chronophysics), create an alternate "What If" timeline.

It almost made sense in "Days of Future Past" when their present was so terrible that any time changing risk was acceptable. Then the writers continued to mine the future with characters who came back, seemingly unaware that changing the present means changing the future.

I guess an integral part of Robbie's initial question, Kang vs. X-Men, depends on who wrote it.  There are a bare handful of writers who could handle such a plot with enough discretion to make it work... and fewer every day, it seems.
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Posted: 27 December 2017 at 9:44am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

It almost made sense in "Days of Future Past" when their present was so terrible that any time changing risk was acceptable. Then the writers continued to mine the future with characters who came back, seemingly unaware that changing the present means changing the future.

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As a one-off, X-Men vs Kang presents some interesting possibilities. The Fantastic Four fought Salem's Seven, who are pretty far from being science-based threats, to choose one example.

But I wouldn't prefer to see the X-Men devolve (no pun intended) into being a generic superteam that takes on all manner of supervillains. They have a mission and they should spend pretty much their working hours devoted to it.
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Posted: 27 December 2017 at 12:04pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

 Andrew Bitner wrote:
But I wouldn't prefer to see the X-Men devolve (no pun intended) into being a generic superteam that takes on all manner of supervillains. They have a mission and they should spend pretty much their working hours devoted to it.

Agreed.

It's best not to overdo any idea. I really enjoyed what our host did when he had Superman and Phantom Stranger team up in a late 80s ACTION COMICS issue. It was something different. But if Superman were to start having supernatural encounters in every issue, I might tire of the concept.
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