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Posted: 22 June 2020 at 11:59am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

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I'm all but certain they are not earning royalties from her likeness after so many years. It might simply be pride in seeing her face on grocery store shelves, representing a product, even if the context of that representation is not good (to put it mildly).
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If Aunt Jemima has been judged a negative image, they must provide a positive. Snoop Dog? The former drug dealer known as Jay-Z? The entire pantheon of gangster rappers need to be judged as well. But they won't be. 
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"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
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 If Aunt Jemima has been judged a negative image, they must provide a positive. Snoop Dog? The former drug dealer known as Jay-Z? The entire pantheon of gangster rappers need to be judged as well. But they won't be.

Tipper Gore, is that you?
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David Miller
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I'm reminded of the Trayvon Martin thread on this board, where somebody posted a picture of a rapper who was most definitely not Trayvon Martin and demanded to know why the lamestream media didn't plaster it across every news story about Martin's death.
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Joe Zhang
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The image of the gangster rapper enriches artists and corporations. It exploits Black poverty. Yet somehow that is OK, but Aunt Jemima, a more positive image than that of the gangster, is not? Why? 

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Okay, who hacked Joe's account?

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Okay, who hacked Joe's account?

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Someone who doesn’t realize that Gangsta Rap has been dead for a while. They should rail against Ska and Nu-Metal next. 
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OK, no intelligible answer. Thanks. 
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Russian bot?
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OK, no intelligible answer. Thanks. 

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Does your inane question deserve an intelligible answer? I mean, there's no point in calling out your racist dog whistling, because you'll just play the victim and claim everyone's resorting to ad hominems.

You want an intelligible answer?


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If Aunt Jemima has been judged a negative image, they must provide a positive.

Who the fuck is they? Aunt Jemima is a name and image that stem from racist stereotypes of blacks. Who must provide a positive here? Quaker Oats? They don't need to provide a positive, they just need to stop profiting from the racist imagery. Black people? Are black people responsible for providing a positive image to counter white racist stereotypes? Because that's fucking ridiculous.


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Snoop Dog? The former drug dealer known as Jay-Z? The entire pantheon of gangster rappers need to be judged as well. But they won't be.

What the fuck are you talking about here? They're artists with criminal pasts. What are you suggesting here? That gangsta rap (which is still dead, btw) represents all of black culture? That blacks need to feel responsible for Snoop Dogg and Jay-Z? Do white people need to answer for Tim Allen's criminal past because they watched TOY STORY?


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The image of the gangster rapper enriches artists and corporations. It exploits Black poverty. Yet somehow that is OK, but Aunt Jemima, a more positive image than that of the gangster, is not? Why?

The answer is that Aunt Jemima is a racist stereotype imposed from the outside, while rappers are individuals who may be part of black culture, but do not represent or are responsible for representing black culture as a whole. Unless you are a racist fuck who thinks they do.
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