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Sergio Saavedra
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Posted: 21 September 2023 at 9:13pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

It is a pity that you feel that way about your time with Superman. I hope it is a consolation to think about how much that run meant to a lot of people, myself included.

Superman was already my favourite superhero, but when I read Man of Steel and all the rest of your work with the character, it somehow erased in my mind everything that was before; it was like reading the Superman I had always wanted to read.

It is really difficult to explain what it meant to me. I was totally ready to get rid of the superdog, the superhorse, the supermonkey, the supercousin, the superhouse in the Artic and so on and so forth. I loved the idea that Superman was truly the last son of Krypton, but even more so the idea that Superman was born on Earth and didn’t even know about his alien origins until after he became Superman as an adult, the fact that he felt an earthling, that Clark was the real person and not an exhausting façade, his dynamics with Lois, the fact that his parents are alive and well, Luthor as an evil businessman, nobody suspecting he has asecret identity, and a hundred of things more that made the stories more thrilling and the character more relatable and inspiring.

But it also happened during a difficult time of my life, and checking the newsstand almost everyweek and buying the last comic was a real treat, one of the highlights in my life back then.

My first post on this forum was to give a detailed explanation of several points I loved of your version of Superman (I wish I could recover that post). That was the main reason why I joined this forum 16 years ago.

(Edited to  correct some format issues)



Edited by Sergio Saavedra on 21 September 2023 at 9:16pm
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Jason K Fulton
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Posted: 21 September 2023 at 10:03pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

This thread reminded me to look at the FAQ, and THAT reminded me that I've never actually read the "Adventures of Superman" books, I've only read SUPERMAN and ACTION COMICS.
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Charles Valderrama
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Posted: 21 September 2023 at 10:13pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

The Superman experience was one of the most unpleasant of my career—and it continues, as people at DC continue to find ways to chip away at what little is left of what I did.
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I really enjoyed your Superman run, JB... but I understand your distain for the that experience. I wish what you did was still intact.

BTW, I really wish that Captain America run would've lasted longer.

-C!
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James Woodcock
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Posted: 21 September 2023 at 10:13pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Your Superman run was pretty much the first elongated run of his that I
read. Previous to that I’d only read odd issues here & there, possibly
because DC just didn’t have the reprint penetration in the UK that Marvel
did.

What I find so sad about all this, is that your stories & art were selling
gangbusters, yet there was so much crap being flung around that the
quality became in spite of, rather than because of.
Shooter wrote the odd story that I liked, but for the most part, I did not gel
with his writing. I am utterly mystified why people like Secret Wars. @ the
time, I thought it was terrible writing - out of character, bad plot, hyped
beyond belief & ultimately inconsequential as everything bar a couple of
things (black costume/Thing), done away with within one to two issues. So
for the next 12 months, we were reading a story that had been minimised
after issue 1.
His Dazzler the movie graphic novel made Secret Wars look like War & Pece
of course.
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James Woodcock
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Posted: 21 September 2023 at 10:14pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Having said that, I did like much of the early Valiant comics, especially
Unity. So I will give him that
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 21 September 2023 at 10:51pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

This thread reminded me to look at the FAQ, and THAT reminded me that
I've never actually read the "Adventures of Superman" books, I've only read
SUPERMAN and ACTION COMICS.
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Same. That’s a big reason why I’m looking for these MOS collections.
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 21 September 2023 at 11:02pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Your Superman run was pretty much the first elongated run of his that I
read. Previous to that I’d only read odd issues here & there
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Same. I never really cared about anything DC before that. Not even NEW
TEEN TITANS. I got all of those as back issues. Byrne on Superman, and
LEGENDS, is what got my DC interests started.

Which is odd since Batman was always my favorite character. But I never
read his comics.
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Vinny Valenti
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Posted: 21 September 2023 at 11:12pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

I remember an interview way back in '88 (about your return to MArvel) where you said that nobody is going to interview you on the TODAY show about taking over WEST COAST AVENGERS, which gave me the impression as a kid that it was a step down from SUPERMAN.

But then, 30+ years later, Disney co-opted major elements from both your WCA and SHE-HULK runs. 
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Peter Hicks
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Posted: 22 September 2023 at 12:30am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Just echoing Sergio’s comments above, I think JB’s Superman is the best handling ever of that character.   Sorry to hear it was unpleasant behind the scenes.

Which begs the question:  JB - At what point in your career did you feel the happiest?
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Sheila Friedland
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Posted: 22 September 2023 at 12:42am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

I perused the FAQ and I couldn't find anything that specifically answered the questions I asked about your run in Superman.
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 22 September 2023 at 1:14am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

I am reminded of William Goldman's reflection on his own career. It really took off when he sold his script for BUTCH CASSIDY & THE SUNDANCE KID, beginning a terrific relationship with Robert Redford that culminated in the Oscar-winning classic script for ALL THE PRESIDENT'S MEN.

As much un-ending applause Goldman received for that movie, it wrecked his friendship with Redford and showed him how little he, as a screenwriter, meant in the big Hollywood scheme.

He later wrote that he loved his career and wouldn't do anything different except that he wouldn't touch ALL THE PRESIDENT'S MEN with a ten-foot pole.

Some regrets just remain, no matter how much other people may think it was "worth it."
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Posted: 22 September 2023 at 1:36am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

I am utterly mystified why people like Secret Wars

 
James Woodcock... Doom, there is only DOOM!!!!!!
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