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Edward Aycock
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| Posted: 26 May 2025 at 10:26am | IP Logged | 1
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I figure that his Putin comments are a smokescreen and they are still best buds.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 26 May 2025 at 11:30am | IP Logged | 2
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Of course! Trump is no use to Putin as an asset unless he can continue to convince his MAGA minions that he’s not one!
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Peter Martin
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| Posted: 26 May 2025 at 1:48pm | IP Logged | 3
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I suspect the Kremlin considers Trump more of a useful idiot. It is possible that Putin's escalation in aerial attacks in Ukraine after having assured the White House for weeks that they are genuine about peace talks has snapped Trump into an authentic volte-face.
Trump is very binary in his opinions and nothing if not capricious. So, yes, he could very easily be pally with Putin again by the end of the week, but calling Putin crazy may also be his authentic outlook right now.
Edited by Peter Martin on 26 May 2025 at 1:48pm
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Matt Reed
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| Posted: 26 May 2025 at 3:11pm | IP Logged | 4
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He’s a creature of the moment. Always has been. He says what he thinks almost at the instant he thinks it and often has to have his admin pull back, defend or laugh off his wildly rampant opinions as if they were a joke we all shouldn’t take seriously. I think he’s as genuine and authentic in his recent opinion of Putin as he is when he feigns ignorance about his knowledge of Project 2025…which is to say not at all. He lost credibility for me decades ago and everything he’s said and done since has only legitimized that opinion.
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Brennan Voboril
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| Posted: 27 May 2025 at 1:53pm | IP Logged | 5
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Peter - In the past several days, Ukraine sent hundreds of drones into Russia, and even attacked the helicopter Putin was on. I saw many pro-Ukraine people on Twitter laughing about those attacks. Russia responded, but not with an escalation (or all of Ukraine would look like Gaza does). Then the pro-Ukraine crowd started crying.
I don't take Trump's comments seriously. He doesn't seem to be getting briefed very well, or he ignores the briefings.
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David Miller
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| Posted: 27 May 2025 at 5:47pm | IP Logged | 6
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Brennan Voboril wrote:
Then the pro-Ukraine crowd started crying.
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You should get this quote as a tattoo. I bet it looks really badass in the
original Russian.
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Brennan Voboril
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I'm German and French by ancestry, and "Puis la foule pro-ukrainienne s’est mise à pleurer" or "Dann begann die pro-ukrainische Menge zu weinen" don't really sing to me.
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Peter Martin
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| Posted: 27 May 2025 at 7:06pm | IP Logged | 8
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Seems we have two options to explore.
One: Brennan Voboril has better information than Macron, Starmer, Trump, Reuters, the Associated Press, etc, and Russia did not really launch massive drone strikes over consecutive days in an escalation of aerial attacks on Ukraine.
Or two: These leaders and the press have accurate information, Brennan Voboril is wrong, and Russia has upped the level of its aerial attacks recently.
Let's apply Occam's Razor.
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James Woodcock
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But he read it on the internet and not in the lying legacy media.
Come on, give a man the benefit of the doubt.
Edited by James Woodcock on 27 May 2025 at 7:34pm
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Brian Floyd
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Then the pro-Ukraine crowd started crying.
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By `pro-Ukraine', you mean `the good guys'? Because lets not forget it was that dictator Putin who started all this, with the audacity and hubris to call Zellinsky a Nazi.
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Brennan Voboril
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Listen, the Times of Israel, and dozens of other international media called attention to the Nazi problem in Ukraine. None of them work for the evil Putler. All of those legitimate news stories are available right now to anyone with a computer.
Here is a story from the Jewish magazine The Forward on the subject: https://forward.com/opinion/416751/why-does-no -one-care-that-neo-nazis-are-gaining-power-in-ukraine/
Now does anyone seriously think that The Forward is Kremlin propaganda?
Edited by Brennan Voboril on 28 May 2025 at 12:42am
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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 28 May 2025 at 1:22pm | IP Logged | 12
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You’re going to have to show me where Ukraine was invading other
countries.
I know that there were many racist incidents in Ukraine - watch football
match footage and it is plain to see. But it was all inside their borders.
Does that justify an invasion and bombing?
Or should that be dealt with via diplomacy?
Because I know which one I would choose.
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