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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 08 December 2025 at 1:49pm | IP Logged | 1
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I'm unsure.
Farage is starting to get the type of questions he has
been throwing at other MPs. And he doesn't like it - not
one bit.
The difference is, our lot are starting to not let go.
He's starting to lose it in interviews and has said he
won't speak to the BBC until they apologise for the Black
and White Minstrel Show and Bernard Manning (as a
deflection of him being accused of saying Jews should be
gassed while at school).
I mean, if that stops him popping up on QUESTION TIME
with the regularity that he has done, then I class that
as a win.
He thinks he can answer hard questions in the same manner
as Trump does. Not in the UK mate.
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Petter Myhr Ness
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| Posted: 08 December 2025 at 4:00pm | IP Logged | 2
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Farage may be slipping, let's hope so, but Starmer and Labour are so wildly unpopular (63 % unfavourable) that a change next election is more lilkely than not.
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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 09 December 2025 at 6:46am | IP Logged | 3
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Unfortunately, I think you are correct. The fatalist in me says Farage is our
next PM.
I’m hoping the councils mess up so much that people realise Reform have
no clue, but I’m not holding out that they would actually care.
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Greg McPhee
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Unfortunately, I think you are correct. The fatalist in me says Farage is our next PM.
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4 years is a lifetime in politics. I think Starmer's biggest mistake is he plods on and doesn't draw attention to himself. In that I mean he needs to be more vocal and aggressive with his message in what is going right and really calling Farage out.
Much as you may loathe them, Starmer needs an Alistair Campbell type to be delivering his message and communications.
As you said above our journalists are now making life difficult for Farage and the more they do the more he is exposed. He has his racist policies and that's it.
And, let's not forget, he has a habit of bottling it, and not wanting to work. Does he even know where Clacton is now?
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Joseph Gauthier
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Will it be four years? What would need to happen--not procedurally, but practically--for it to happen sooner? If it is four years, it not be an issue for Larry, sadly.
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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 10 December 2025 at 6:10am | IP Logged | 6
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There would need to be a vote of no confidence, anything else would not
force an election.
The bottom line of that, is that even the hardest Labour MP who is anti
Starmer would not make them lose the vote.
If an election were held today, Reform would walk it.
I do think Labour need to publicise what they have done right more, but I
still think that is a different argument to what Reform are doing.
Labour and the Tories are still arguing on facts.
Reform are arguing on emotion and facts don’t matter.
It’s their version on the MAGA playbook.
Forget what it really is out there, how do you FEEL?
And that gets people who never vote, out to vote.
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Bill Collins
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I despair of the state of politics in the U.K. i have
strong memories of Labour governments of the 70's and
90's and Conservative governments of the 80's and this
century. There's been good and bad in all of them. But
the hypocrisy, dishonesty and incompetence of both
parties this century is the worst i can remember. I too
fear Farage will be elected only because the public have
no confidence in any of the other parties and he will
ride in on protest votes. It boils down to the fact there
are no politicians who have a personality or are
statespeople.
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Steven Brake
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If rumours are true, it could be seven in ten years by tomorrow.
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Petter Myhr Ness
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Changing PM outside of elections is now the new norm ... what a deppressing state of affairs.
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Evan S. Kurtz
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I feel that government works best when the people who choose their leaders have long enough attention spans to ignore the noise of chaotic dissent.
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I don't mind Starmer, but I don't see why this should be depressing. I think it would be much, much worse if the highest ranking politician in a country could not be displaced no matter how unpopular they were or no matter what they did.
The idea that the leader of the country is answerable to public opinion is a cornerstone of a healthy, functioning democracy. Being open to scrutiny is another. Free elections is, of course, another. And a strong independent press is yet another.
I can think of other leading democracies in a worse state.
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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 22 June 2026 at 5:36pm | IP Logged | 12
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Seven prime ministers in 10 years due to this insane
desire to dump your leader is the exact opposite of a
functional political system.
To no one's surprise, Farage etc Al are calling for an
election, which is something that never happens in this
situation.
Coupled with that crazy sat above, is the equally crazy
stat that out of the last 11 changes in prime ministers,
the public were only responsible for five of them.
That stat covers a period of 47 years! Utterly crazy.
As an addendum, we were visiting our MP on a pre arranged
visit today. What a strange day to be visiting
parliament.
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