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John Byrne
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| Posted: 09 October 2025 at 5:34pm | IP Logged | 1
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Hope nobody down here gets any ides!
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Steve Coates
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Location: Canada
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| Posted: 09 October 2025 at 6:42pm | IP Logged | 2
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It really not a big change. Most mail is already delivered to community boxes.
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Trevor Smith
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| Posted: 09 October 2025 at 7:47pm | IP Logged | 3
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I've heard some push back against the complaints that
Canada Post is losing money, because they're not *meant* to
make a profit. OK, sure, but I'm pretty sure that by any
measure losing $10,000,000 A DAY is on the unacceptable end
of things.
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Dave Bensett
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| Posted: 09 October 2025 at 8:33pm | IP Logged | 4
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I worked there as a letter carrier for 31 years.The company is extremely top heavy.
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Trevor Smith
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| Posted: 09 October 2025 at 9:10pm | IP Logged | 5
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Yeah, I've heard some (now forgotten) numbers on the
massive amount of redundant/duplicate management positions.
Way, WAY over the top.
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Evan S. Kurtz
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| Posted: 10 October 2025 at 1:02am | IP Logged | 6
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On one hand, it’s offensive to denigrate a service for not being profitable, because a service is infrastructure, not industry. On the other hand, all services need to be as efficient as possible. If it’s true that there’s a lot of unnecessary high paying managerial and executive positions, then it’s offensive that the best solution being acted upon is to reduce the reach of that service while punishing those who rely on it.
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Vinny Valenti
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Joined: 17 April 2004
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| Posted: 10 October 2025 at 3:27am | IP Logged | 7
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I do remember during the 90s, when the US Postal Service spent millions of dollars on a new logo, which of course had to be replaced on every mailbox across the entire country. Why?? Did they expect someone to think "I've had this letter sitting in my pocket for years but you know, that new logo looks mighty perty, I think I'll finally mail this thing!"
Edited by Vinny Valenti on 10 October 2025 at 7:53pm
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Trevor Krysak
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| Posted: 10 October 2025 at 3:55am | IP Logged | 8
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When the CEO makes WAY more money than the Prime Minister of the country and is running a corporation that has lost billions over the last 4-6 years during a parcel boom blaming the workers who are out there doing the job seems absolutely pathetic.
Canada Post has something like 15 VPs. They removed 50 manager positions in Ontario earlier this year and said it didn't affect operations. Those are six figure a year jobs.
This is corporate greed on the backs of working class people. And the government of Canada is enabling it.
It's clear Canada Post and mail in general needs to change. But the people in charge need to face consequences for their actions. Blaming the union doesn't help. And that seems to be a main talking point in all the coverage of this.
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Craig Earl
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Joined: 13 July 2019
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| Posted: 10 October 2025 at 5:08pm | IP Logged | 9
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Don't get me started on the current state of the Royal Mail in the UK...
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Steve Coates
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| Posted: 10 October 2025 at 7:06pm | IP Logged | 10
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Come on Craig, it can't be as bad as Canada Post.
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Peter Martin
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| Posted: 10 October 2025 at 11:07pm | IP Logged | 11
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QUOTE:
| This is corporate greed on the backs of working class people. And the government of Canada is enabling it. |
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I'm far from an expert on this, but as I understand it Canada Post is a Crown operation, but unlilke many other Crown corporations, it is not taxpayer funder -- it needs to sustain itself through its own profits. The company lost $748m before tax in 2023. In 2022 it lost $548. How is this corporate greed and how is the government of Canada enabling it?
Evidently it is spending much more running itself than it is taking in revenue. That its market share in deliveries has been dropping shows that the problem primarily is on the competing for business side rather than on the costs side. I have no doubt it has bloat and ineffiencies on the operations side, as this tends to be true for almost all government jobs, but if you were to bullet point its issues, I would say they are: 1. Doesn't run 7 days a week when its competitors do 2. Has unions that strike a lot when its competitors never strike 3. Can't pick and choose where it delivers, when its competitors can make efficiency calls about the economic ways to deliver to remote areas (if at all).
Something is clearly rotten in the state of Denmark when that much money is being lost, but I'm not sure I'd ascribe those losses to corporate greed as such.
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Craig Earl
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| Posted: 11 October 2025 at 1:49pm | IP Logged | 12
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Come on Craig, it can't be as bad as Canada Post.
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You're quite right, Steve. CP is a hot mess (I was just venting at a really poor run of dealings with Royal Mail).
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