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James Johnson
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Posted: 13 January 2026 at 11:55pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

So now Joe Rogan is having issues with ICE tactics?

Nah, mother fucker. You bought all into the White Brains Grifter. 

You don't get to ask for a refund. 

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John Byrne
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Posted: 14 January 2026 at 11:59am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Disagree.

In science it’s said the three most important words are “I was wrong.” The same holds true for politics, but there are heard far less often.

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James Woodcock
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Posted: 14 January 2026 at 12:46pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

I agree with JB - if a politician refuses to change
direction, they are vilified as not listening
If they change - they are doing a U turn and are weak (we
are hearing a LOT of that in the UK at the moment).

By maintaining those positions, politicians stick to the
path they are on.
I much prefer to hear a politician say that on
reflection, they have changed their position.

Being wrong in the face of evidence is a lot worse than
moving to the correct position in the face of evidence.

Of course, changing position only because something
affects you personally, and you thought you were going to
be able to dodge that bullet, is another thing entirely -
because you haven't REALLY changed your position. you are
just upset that you got caught in the crossfire.
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Michael Penn
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Posted: 14 January 2026 at 1:09pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I would think it quite rare that a regular voter especially over a long period of time never rued a single vote cast.
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 14 January 2026 at 1:11pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Even Bill O’Reilly is saying ICE is going too far and needs to stand down.
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