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John Byrne
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Another of my creations I should NOT have googled. Oy……
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Rick Whiting
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| Posted: 29 March 2026 at 2:11pm | IP Logged | 2
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Yeah, they ruined Roger Bochs. It started shortly after you left the book with Bill Mantilo's run and then in a recent Alpha Flight mini series they gave him a grown son who is apparently evil an evil genius who create Box mutant hunting robots. Speaking of that recent Alpha Flight mini series, that mini series encompasses everything that has gone wrong with Marvel comics. You got characters who are married, have kids, and a MU that looks less like it is set outside your window with superheroes and supervillains and set in a near futuristic world that is a cross between the DC Universe and the My Hero Academia. Marvel needs to selectively retcon, ignore, and never ever mention again a lot of the stories (regardless of how popular and/or critically acclaimed those stories may have been) from the last 40 to 50 years that have damaged the characters and the MU as a whole and just keep what worked and moved on from there. They also need to make it a company policy that these characters will not age and that the stories will remain timeless and be both suitable for and appealing to a wide all ages audience. Any creators and editors who doesn't want to play by those rules can go kick rocks and find employment elsewhere or create their own creator owned comics.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 29 March 2026 at 2:22pm | IP Logged | 3
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The fanboy mentality that started infecting Marvel decades ago makes it virtually impossible for anything to be simply forgotten or ignored. Mort Weisinger wisely observed that “every issue is the first issue for somebody,” and my half century in the Biz has taught me that every story element, no matter how lame (or downright stupid) is somebody’s favorite.* Give that somebody creative power, and no effort to smooth out the bumps will ever be completely successful. * I have mentioned the howls of outrage from some corners when my Superman reboot erased Beppo the Super Monkey! (Did I not understand how important he was to the mythos??)
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Rick Whiting
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The fanboy mentality that started infecting Marvel decades ago makes it virtually impossible for anything to be simply forgotten or ignored.
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This is why I am a firm believer in telling those selfish pros and selfish long time adult fans the hard honest truth that these characters and there stories were not meant to appeal to an aging shrinking audience and that not every story works to the benefit of the characters in the long term.
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Vinny Valenti
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For what it's worth, it was the issue where he got his legs back and went insane that was the last issue that I ever bought.
I did try to stay on for the characters even after you left. But they were slowly becoming different people, and corrupting who was the most uncorruptable character of the book was the last straw for me.
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Edward Aycock
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I remember an issue of AF maybe two to three years after JB left where Heather reflects that there are no more original members of the team left. I thought, that's really not a good thing, and why would the writers have written themselves into such a corner?
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Joe Smith
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A.F. lives on perfectly in my head. 1-28. The best.
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Eric Jansen
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One of the best things about comics is at the same time one of the worst: they keep going.
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John Byrne
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There's no question that the Superman and Batman I encountered in 1956 were very different from the characters that had burst upon the scene in '38 and '39.The principle difference between then and now, tho, is the lack of ego in the people producing the work.
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Brandon Frye
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The fanboy mentality that started infecting Marvel decades ago makes it virtually impossible for anything to be simply forgotten or ignored.
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I still remember the fan outrage during your Spider-Man run for bringing Aunt May back while having no qualms about her being killed off in the first place. And don't even get me started on "she knew he was Spider-Man all along." Gah!
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