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Posted: 23 July 2026 at 12:35pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Found this:

“ …from what I heard Lara on the spaceship idea was suggested by editorial as a way to explain how they know Kryptonite will kill Kryptonians since Lara was to die after landing on earth with Kal-El. Byrne nixed that himself by coming up with the idea that irradiated pieces of Krypton was already killing Kryptonians before the planet exploded.”

This is a near perfect example of how twisted things can get, the more time elapses.

When I started on Superman, there was one small itch in particular that I wanted to scratch. Something that had bugged me even as a child:

How do we know kryptonite can kill Superman? We’ve seen him suffer all kinds of agonies from exposure,* but proving the lethal nature of the stuff would be pretty much a test to destruction. Don’t wanna do that!

So I came up with the idea that it was pregnant Lara who Jor-El sent to Earth. Kal-El would be born here, and some time later Lara would find, and be killed by, the only piece of kryptonite on Earth.

Jenette Kahn felt that changed the origin too much, and it was she who suggested pressures in the soon-to-explode core were creating kryptonite before the full-on catastrophe occurred.

I liked that idea, and coupled with Dick Giordano’s suggestion that I completely redesign Krypton, I put together the original pages as you saw them. (Dick wanted the readers to “know everything was different” from the very first page.)

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* apparently, kryptonite radiation is not cumulative

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Posted: 23 July 2026 at 12:57pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Do you prefer that idea then? or Would you still have prefered Lara to have landed on Earth and died after giving birth to Kal-El
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Posted: 23 July 2026 at 1:31pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Read what I wrote.
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Posted: 23 July 2026 at 3:40pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

When you accepted the Superman assignment, how front-of-mind was the idea that your work was (metaphorically) a kind of creative "sand-box" for future writers and artists to play in?
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Posted: 23 July 2026 at 3:59pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I have learned the hard way that nothing I do (that isn’t creator owned) will ever be bulletproof. So I basically approached this job as a job, thinking if anything I did survived for ten years it would be an amazing achievement!
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As a writer and musican I personally believe that my own creations are fully my property to play with and design. But if I'm working on someone else's material then I will concede to them generally as it's their property and not mine. My own Science Fiction Universe I'm creating will be fully to my own tastes and desires but if I were to work on Star Trek, Gundam, 2000AD, DC, Marvel etc I would generally be willing to alter my ideas to fit the established material.

When I make my own music I always focus on my own taste completly, and would rather anyone I work with stick to my ideas. But if I'm making something for someone else's album then I will do what they ask of me generally speaking. EG if I got to appear on a song with Wu-Tang Clan or The Cure (two of my favourite groups) I would make an adjustments they wanted me too, but if I got Robert Smith to sing or Method Man to rap on one of my tracks I would want them make the adjustments I asked for. 

That said as a writer I very much want to work within the established properties I'm a fan of. Whereas as a rapper and producer I'm much less concerned with collaborating with acts I'm a fan of or joining pre-existing groups. 
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Posted: 23 July 2026 at 4:41pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

I try to avoid sweeping changes to the properties unless they are mandated   from On High, as with the Superman reboot. (That’s right, Byrne Bashers. I didn’t march into DC demanding that everyone get the f*** out of my way.)
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Posted: 23 July 2026 at 5:18pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Mr. Byrne, a question about Superman's arrival on Earth in Man of Steel (your Man of Steel). Did Kal El's coming out of the Krytonian ship (matrix?) imbue him with any Earthly qualities? At the time it reminded me of Marina's "birth" in Alpha Flight, and how she did acquire some human elements in her DNA or physiology. Its been long time since I've read either so I may be misremembering but I wondered if you saw Kal El as changed by where he was born? Thx

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It’s surprising how many readers seem to have fused the Earthly arrivals of Kal-El and Marrina. Other than both being (very different) aliens, they have nothing in common.

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I actually think DC's current format for comics is great. The mainline stories are set in an evolving world where characters are moving far from their status quos within a dense continuity. While the Worlds Finest line tells stories about the characters in their classic incarnations and Absolute provides radical reinventions of their characters in a separate continuity starting from the ground up. 

I think this is best way to do this as it allows good introductions to the universe without continuity lockout. But people like me who've been intensely reading them since they were children still have our deeply connected, lore heavy storylines built from decades of story telling. I always though that the New 52 would have worked better as a seperate canon in the vain of Ultimate Marvel rather than replacing the main universe.

The way I see canon is, that if I were to get into Football it would be easier without the century plus of records, events and rivalries that I would have to learn about. But actual Football fans would be livid about all the records and scores being wiped and being expected to totally forget about their teams histories. So the same way I don't want that done for me to attempt getting into Football (which I don't plan to) I think it's unfair to demand Comics shred their dense canonicity and metafiction to attract people who don't read them.


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Posted: 23 July 2026 at 5:54pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

I’ll forever wonder what the alternate history stories would be, JB, if you had to do an in-continuity reboot of Superman, and Doom Patrol. I recall, you saying you had thought through both of those scenarios,
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Posted: 23 July 2026 at 7:59pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Mr. Byrne, a question about Superman's arrival on Earth in Man of Steel (your Man of Steel). Did Kal El's coming out of the Krytonian ship (matrix?) imbue him with any Earthly qualities? At the time it reminded me of Marina's "birth" in Alpha Flight, and how she did acquire some human elements in her DNA or physiology. Its been long time since I've read either so I may be misremembering but I wondered if you saw Kal El as changed by where he was born? Thx
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It’s surprising how many readers seem to have fused the Earthly arrivals of Kal-El and Marrina. Other than both being (very different) aliens, they have nothing in common.
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