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Tom French Byrne Robotics Member

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"If there is anything that I can do in terms of assisting there and allowing the credence, the credibility that that great vocation, that cornerstone of our democracy called the press, if I can help build up that credibility in the press and allow the electorate to know that they can believe everything that is reported through the airwaves and through print, I want to be able to help." -- Sarah Palin to Larry King
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Michael Penn Byrne Robotics Member

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Palin is a latterday Dada genius.
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member

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... speechless ...
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member

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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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| Posted: 18 November 2008 at 10:09am | IP Logged | 5
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Really good article on the election from this week's Rolling Stone:
How Obama Won
It's not an op-ed piece, but a conversation between Peter D. Hart and David Gergen, former senior adviser to Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and Clinton. Good stuff.
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Neil Lindholm Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 12 January 2005 Location: China Posts: 4944
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Stop Blaming Capitalism for Government Failures
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Marc Baptiste Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 17 June 2004 Location: United States Posts: 3633
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AP, MSNBC, FOX, and CBN (Christian Broadcasting Network) are calling the Alaska Senate race for Democrat Mark Begich over Republican Ted Stevens. And, by more votes than needed to avoid a recount. If Stevens requests a recount, it's on his dime.
AWESOME! Democrats take down a "Lion of the Senate" in an overwhelmingly red state, where an Alaskan was on the Republican ticket and Republicans couldn't even unseat perpetual-foot-in-mouth Rep. Jack Murtha... do I hear 59?
Edited by Marc Baptiste on 18 November 2008 at 8:03pm
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Neil Lindholm Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 12 January 2005 Location: China Posts: 4944
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| Posted: 18 November 2008 at 8:19pm | IP Logged | 8
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Can American politicians change their party affiliation? What I mean is, can the Democrats put pressure on a few Republican senators to switch sides, giving them the big majority they want?
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Mike O'Brien Byrne Robotics Member
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Yes, Neil - but it's likely to go the other way! Former Democrat VP Nominee Joe Lieberman - who has been a Democrat in name only for years now - is likely to become a Republican any second now. If only he could un-hook his lips from McCain's tuccus.
On the other side, back in 2001 Jim Jeffords of Vermont defected from the Republicans.
The trick is - like Jeffords, (and likely, like Lieberman is likely to do) they might not completely switch over, but become Independants, but in doing, likely vote with the other side.
That's just a labeling term, though. Despite being called Dems or Repubs, you're free to vote however you think is best to serve your constituants, and in so doing, many times, congresspeople do not vote party line. Even though the Dems have a majority, yet not a fillerbuster-proof one, they do have enough left leaning republicans they can count out to help them out with key votes.
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Marc Baptiste Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 17 June 2004 Location: United States Posts: 3633
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Neil,
American politicians can change their party affiliation at any time. They can, and have even changed right in the middle of a session of Congress.
The last major politico to do so was Jim Jeffords of the state of Vermont who switched from being a Republican to being an Independent who caucused with the Democrats. Prior to that the two most recent examples were Richard Shelby of Alabama and Ben Nighthorse-Campbell of Colorado (only two years into a 6-year term) -- both Democrats who switched and became Republicans.
While the Democratic party has become more and more diverse, electing moderate and conservative Democrats from many "red" (i.e., heavily Republican) states to recapture the majority in '06 and build on it this year; the Republican party has undergone a hemorrhaging of moderate and liberal Republicans in recent years. The only moderate Republicans left in the incoming Senate who could be considered candidates for party-switching can be counted on one hand with fingers to spare: Arlen Specter, Olympia Snowe, and Susan Collins. All three of them are very loyal to their party and I would be SHOCKED if any switched parties.
Edited by Marc Baptiste on 18 November 2008 at 8:52pm
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Jason Czeskleba Byrne Robotics Member

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Mike, the latest I hear is that it's unlikely Lieberman will lose his committe chairmanship, and hence unlikely he will change to a Republican or an Independent caucusing with the Republicans. It is to Lieberman's benefit to stay caucused with the Democrats... the Republicans I don't think would be willing or able to give him any prime assignments, as he would be the low man on the Republican seniority totem pole if he switched. And being Republican would make him more vulnerable to a challenge from a Democrat when he's up for re-election.
I think it would be shortsighted of the Democrats to push him out, also. The Democrats have a solid majority now, but they may need him in the future.
I predict Franken will win in Minnesota but Chambliss will win in Georgia, denying the Dems the supermajority they need to stop filibusters.
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Neil Lindholm Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 12 January 2005 Location: China Posts: 4944
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| Posted: 18 November 2008 at 9:49pm | IP Logged | 12
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Al Franken might win. Can someone explain to me again why people think the government knows more about how to run the economy rather than businessmen?
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