Would you have rather a seventeen year old girl with a crisis pregnancy put up with the rumors in the media that she was the biological mother of her new baby brother?

This made no sense and isn't even remotely the point I was making. Did I post that? nope. 

There was no way around this but to be honest.

But the point is, there was another way around it.

Valerie I didn't say that she should send her daughter away, she should have put her ambition on hold, for the sake of the daughters feelings. Do you realize because of Palins ambition her daughter had a facebook page calling her a "dirty dirty slut"?  Her mother was the only one that put her daughter in the position of public ridicule. That is something I would never do and I would lose respect for anyone that would do it. But if you think it was an OK thing to do, that is where we are different, that and the god thing. :0)

Edited to add : Ray I think George Pataki would be a good choice he is very pro environment. He has great cross over appeal to me.

Would you have rather a seventeen year old girl with a crisis pregnancy put up with the rumors in the media that she was the biological mother of her new baby brother?

This made no sense and isn't even remotely the point I was making. Did I post that? nope.

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You suggested that Sarah Palin offered her daughter up "like a lamb to the slaughter." Somehow, I think Bristol Palin's pregnancy might have been handled with a lot less publicity had it not been for the rumor mongering from Palin's detractors. That disgusting bit of name calling would have likely happened anyway. Obama handled the news with tremendous class. It's not Sarah Palin's fault other people chose not to behave with similar restraint and maturity.

Did Sarah Palin put her daughter in that position by running for VP? By that logic, it was Bill Clinton's fault some despicable people across the nation mocked Chelsea when she was going through a naturally awkward adolescence. His running for office put her in that position, right?

Or is the problem that we've allowed people to stoop far too low in politics?

Did Sarah Palin put her daughter in that position by running for VP? By that logic, it was Bill Clinton's fault some despicable people across the nation mocked Chelsea when she was going through a naturally awkward adolescence. His running for office put her in that position, right?

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There is a huge difference between a daughter in an awkward phase of adolescence and one in a "crisis" pregnancy. Comparing the two makes little to no sense. Why would anyone think that idiots like Rush Limbaugh would attack a little girl because she wasn't the prettiest thing on the planet?

It doesn't take a genius to know that your unmarried teenage daughter's pregnancy was going to be an issue if you accepted the VP position.

And the right wing press was exceedingly easy on her. Especially after what many of them said about Jamie Lynn Spears.

I'm not condoning what was said about Bristol Palin but that doesn't make Sarah thrusting her daughter into the national spotlight right.

There is a huge difference between a daughter in an awkward phase of adolescence and one in a "crisis" pregnancy. Comparing the two makes little to no sense. Why would anyone think that idiots like Rush Limbaugh would attack a little girl because she wasn't the prettiest thing on the planet?

It doesn't take a genius to know that your unmarried teenage daughter's pregnancy was going to be an issue if you accepted the VP position.

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Come on. This is the 21st century. Unplanned pregnancy does not have the same stigma it used to have, and all but the looniest right wingers know that increasing the social stigma associated with crisis pregnancy will only increase the abortion rate.

Idiots did attack a girl for not being pretty, and then surpassed that this last campaign. Idiots attacked a man and his family for being biracial and having an Arabic name. Idiots attacked a seventeen year old girl and her family because she got pregnant out of wedlock, intends to carry to term, might marry her boyfriend, et cetera. Idiots wrote scathing editorials criticizing a candidate for her accent. Idiots attacked another man for his age. Idiots made a five month old baby the center of vicious rumors regarding his parentage.

I don't give a rat's rear that the people in question are or are related to politicians. I find treating people that way unacceptable. If you don't like someone's policies, address that, and leave everyone and everything else out of it. It's as if anyting and everything's fair game if you happen to disagree with someone, and I strongly believe it should not be the case, on either side.

But as it is, this is unfortunate part of what passes for political discourse. If we're going to judge people for thrusting kids into that environment, maybe nobody with kids should run. Or we can do our part to make that environment a more civil and positive one.

My hat's off to people on all sides who made educated voting decisions based on voting records, policy decisions, positions on issues, and personal integrity while taking no part in all that other garbage.

I didn't just vote against Palin because I think she is a bad mother, I voted against her because she is the worst possible person to lead this country. Never once did I say her daughter was wrong for having unprotected sex and getting pregnant. Remember I am a democrat, hell we are the horny party. But her mother was wrong for putting her in the face of this nation knowing full well what would be said about her, by those idiots you bring up. I thought it showed poor judgement and a thrist for power.

Stirring hate at ralleys, calling some states more American than others and being completely clueless were enough for me to put an expiration date on that woman.

QUOTE: we are the horny party

Hells Yeah!  LOL