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Mike O'Brien
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Yay South Bend! There are Irish people there?
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Geoff Gibson
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Yay South Bend! There are Irish people there?
Just the Fightin' kind! But it reflects that he has made inroads with Catholics -- something he needed to do.
Edited by Geoff Gibson on 07 May 2008 at 10:10am
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Al Cook
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Speaking as a left leaning Canadian who has watched CNN & MSNBC as an
outside observer, I can tell you that I have never gotten the impression
that they were even remotely left leaning. Their definitely less right-leaning
than FOX, but only to the extent that FOX has leaned so far to the right it's
fallen completely over and out of this reality...
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Geoff Gibson
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If you are left leaning, often you will not see it as a "bias." You will see it as true.
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Christopher Alan Miller
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MSNBC should just put up Obama campaign signs and wear Obama for President buttons. It wouldn't be any more obvious who they support.
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Al Cook
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QUOTE:
If you are left leaning, often you will not see it as a "bias." You will
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Well, by that measurement then, I've seen very little opinion presented by
either that I have agreed with. What is considered "left" by Americans often
seems slightly right-of-centre to the rest of the world...
Edited by Al Cook on 07 May 2008 at 10:17am
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Brian Hunt
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It's way past time for Hillary to exit the race. She can't catch Obama in delegates and her campaign is running out of money (she's had to personally loan it over $6,000,000). What can possibly be gained by her staying in? It's time for the Super Delegates to save the day and move to Obama in such massive numbers that the point is clear: Get Out.
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Geoff Gibson
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Al:
America is a conservative country in many ways. Socialism (regardless of its definition) is a bad word round these parts. I think maybe the better way to describe the networks is MSNBC and CNN are to the Democrats what Fox News is to Republicans.
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Christopher Alan Miller
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If the positions were reversed do you think Obama would drop out? He would stay in and hope for a colossal meltdown by his opponent just like Clinton is doing.
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Al Cook
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I think maybe the better way to describe the networks is MSNBC and
CNN are to the Democrats what Fox News is to Republicans. |
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Complete and utter embarrassments?
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Knut Robert Knutsen
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"If you are left leaning, often you will not see it as a "bias." You will see it as true."
Hm. Which is also true about being right-leaning. Too often the phrase left-leaning just means "to the left of me." (the same obviously applies to "right-leaning". )
From our perspective, even the "right" and parts of the "middle" of the left(i.e. the Democratic Party) are firmly on the right.
That's because economic liberalism (european definition) is to us a policy of the right( there are two main factors in our dividing line. Economic liberalism and Social conservatism (i.e. religion and values), we have many parties so there are some who sort of fall in the middle without necessarily being very moderate).
Liberalism is also the underlying policy of both major US parties, the dividing lines forming within liberalism itself.
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Geoff Gibson
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Al -- I am not sure what you mean by that, but each network has an editorial agenda that they follow, often telling the same story very different ways. Its like the old saying -- there is your story, my story and the truth is usually somewhere between the two.
Edited by Geoff Gibson on 07 May 2008 at 10:31am
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