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Al Cook
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Colmes was selected specifically for his spinelessness, I suspect. FOX
wants him to seem ill-informed and unable to defend his views.
Hannity is supposed to overwhelm him. His milk-soppishness is a role
he plays well, and to the great satisfaction of his bosses.
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Erik Larsen
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There is no "liberal media" in the United States outside of the internet.
At best MSNBC could be considered middle-of-the-road but compared
to the ranting of left-wing radio where Bush's impeachable offenses are
ticked off like a shopping list and war crimes, price gouging, conspiracy,
voter fraud, stolen elections and all the rest are brought up time after
time, the mass news media is a model of restraint--and no wonder--
they're largely owned by people on the right.
According to the 2007 Freedom of the Press World Ranking--the United
States is right there at #21--after Finland, Iceland, Belgium, Denmark,
Norway, Sweden, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Andorra, Netherlands, New
Zealand, Liechtenstein, Palau, Portugal, Jamaica, Estonia, Germany,
Ireland, Monaco and St. Lucia.
In a country where huge numbers of black voters are put onto lists that
make it so their votes are not counted, voting machines "create"
thousands of voters in the dead of night in order to tip an election, wars
are waged based on lies and distortions, thousands of people take to the
streets in protest and nobody says a word about it-- how can you
possibly claim there is a liberal bias in the media?
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Al Cook
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| Posted: 07 May 2008 at 11:13am | IP Logged | 3
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QUOTE:
In a country where huge numbers of black voters are put onto lists
that make it so their votes are not counted, voting machines "create"
thousands of voters in the dead of night in order to tip an election, wars
are waged based on lies and distortions, thousands of people take to the
streets in protest and nobody says a word about it-- how can you
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Exactly, Erik.
To outside observers it boggles the mind.
And then Americans wonder why they are mistrusted (at best) by most of
the rest of the world...
Edited by Al Cook on 07 May 2008 at 11:14am
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Al Cook
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I should probably restate that as "And then Americans wonder why their
news media is mistrusted by the rest of the world."
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Bob Neill
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Isn't it fair to point out that CNN favors one point of view over another?
As for MSNBC, outside of a few people who fellate Keith Olbermann, their viewership is next to nothing, as is their credibility as a news source. Whenever NBC's agreement with Microsoft runs out, look for a name change, and yet another 'reboot'.
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Geoff Gibson
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how can you possibly claim there is a liberal bias in the media?
Where did I write that there is a "liberal bias in the media?" My point was different news agencies have different agendas in the way and manner they report the news. These interests often include corporate interests, or the favoring of one political party over the other. To clarify my point upthread I noted that I should have said "favored republican" or "favored democratic" views.
Edited by Geoff Gibson on 07 May 2008 at 11:38am
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Geoff Gibson
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Al:
Sadly, you may have been right the first time . . .
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Erik Larsen
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Geoff Gibson wrote:
how can you possibly claim there is a liberal bias in the media?
Where did I write that there is a "liberal bias in the media?" |
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Did I say I was talking to you?
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Al Cook
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I think so, too, Geoff. I changed it because I feel bad about that...
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Geoff Gibson
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Did I say I was talking to you?
If I misunderstood you -- my bad, and my apologies -- so you were using "you" in the generic rather than specific useage, is that right?
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Geoff Gibson
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I think so, too, Geoff. I changed it because I feel bad about that...
Al:
I love my country -- but I'll be the first to say some of policies (particularly in the wake of 9/11) are, as the kids say, whack! That said I also think some of the world's distrust is based not on our actions but on their own points of view and the view of America as an intractable, cultural, economic and militaristic monolith. I mean we are pleading with Myanmar to accept our aid -- not all of the distrust is created by the United States.
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Scott Richards
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It isn't about race - plenty of non-blacks are voting for Obama - he just happens to do really well in that group. If it were really "about" race, then he'd ONLY get votes from black people, wouldn't he?
Not at all. It can be about race with one group but not with another. It doesn't seem to be about race to non-blacks but definitely seems to be about race with blacks. Otherwise you would expect a pretty much equal distribution of votes among all ethnic backgrounds. That is, if an average of 38% of the people were voting for candidate X but one ethinic group has 90% voting for that candidate, it's too much of a coincidence to not be about race for that group.
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