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Christopher Alan Miller
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Posted: 14 May 2008 at 12:52pm | IP Logged | 1  

I think you misunderstood my question. How many black voters are there?  How many non-black voters are there? Totals - just the straight up ratio in the U.S. is what I'm interested in

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12% TO 88%

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Al Cook
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Wow! That's interesting, Christopher!

If you can without denigrating my character for asking, can you tell us
where did found that?
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Christopher Alan Miller
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http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762156.html
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Wonder if anybody would try something like that with President Obama(or Clinton!)

Okay, I did some quickie Google image searching.

To me Obama quintesentially resembles a Vulcan. And not Tuvok. A lot of people have tried it with Tuvok because they are both black but frankly there is no significant resemblence. When I say Vulcan I mean Leonard Nimoy and Mark Leonard's portrayal of such. It's hard to explain but it definitely works really for me. I think it's the long planar face and the stern way he holds his eyes while standing up straight. It's not about pointy ears and arched eyebrows.

I have seen Hillary protrayed as the Joker because she did a crazy laugh and uses a forced smile a lot. It's a bit rough but it does fit somewhat.

Mccain is a foul tempered, manic, caprcious old gnome/goblin who can't sit still and occasionally shouts nonsense about "Luke Skywalker taking on the empire" at conventions.

 

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Thanks for the link, Christopher!

So Obama split roughly 50-50 between black and non-black voters, while
Hillary was about 93% non-black to 7% black.

Clinton had 42% of the total votes and Obama 58%.

Presumably Christopher's numbers are for total registered voters in the
U.S. I wonder what the breakdown is within those registered as
Democrats? I think I've seen that they would have a higher number of
black voters than the Republicans. (If I recall, this has historically been
the case, too, independent of the races of the current candidates.)

If a majority of the overall black voters are registered Democrats we could
really analyze something useful out of these numbers...
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Of course, I just realized that the numbers we've been talking about for the
last couple of pages are for North Carolina only, which means the lines I've
been thinking along were going to get skewed by using a poor sampling of
numbers.

Dang.

Must do some more researching - thanks again for that link, Christopher.
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Christopher Alan Miller
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It's total population not registered voters. You'd probably have to go through all of the exit polls to get an estimate on the registered voter percentage.

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What I was hoping to do was get an idea of the kind of true representative
breakdown nationally that Scott did for North Carolina about a third of the
way down the previous page.

I think there are factors that are being left out when we hear the media
tossing numbers around. For example - it really does make a difference if
the Democratic party has a larger number of registered black voters than
the Republicans - Hillary's meagre 7% (in NC, anyway) of them would seem
like a real indication that she's failing to represent the party as a whole.


Edited to clarify "nationally".

Edited by Al Cook on 14 May 2008 at 1:22pm
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Christopher Alan Miller
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Here's the popular vote totals but there are no racial breakdowns

 

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democ ratic_vote_count.html

 

 

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Posted: 14 May 2008 at 1:23pm | IP Logged | 10  

Thanks. That looks like an interesting site!
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Of course, I just realized that the numbers we've been talking about for the  last couple of pages are for North Carolina only, which means the lines I've  been thinking along were going to get skewed by using a poor sampling of  numbers.

Dang.

That makes me feel a lot better.  I thought you were intentionally playing stupid and trying to bait me.  Now I realize you were basing everything off of a misunderstanding.

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Just me being dense, in that case!
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