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Geoff Gibson
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Posted: 15 May 2008 at 1:18pm | IP Logged | 1  

Maybe he meant to call her "sugar tits." I would totally vote for him if he did that.

Now THAT would resonate with working class whites! (Just kidding it would resonate with all straight men regardless of race, creed or class!)

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"Obama made a casual reply to a reporter, which he later claimed was a mispeak, calling her sweetie."

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Heard about this.

The phrase "Making a mountain out of a mole hill" comes to mind.
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Troops may be home by 2013? Damn. I bet McCain is sorry he couldn't come up with a timetable to get them back in 2012 so he didn't have to run for that pesky 2nd term.
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"Obama made a casual reply to a reporter, which he later claimed was a mispeak, calling her sweetie."

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Heard about this.

The phrase "Making a mountain out of a mole hill" comes to mind.

I agree, but a feminist would most likely strongly disagree.  Do feminists tend to be Democrats or Republicans?

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I just noticed the number of views on this thread.  By November it will probably hit 1,000,000.  Has any other thread come close on these boards?
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Troops may be home by 2013? Damn. I bet McCain is sorry he couldn't come up with a timetable to get them back in 2012 so he didn't have to run for that pesky 2nd term.

Its not a timetable, though it will likely be charcterized as one.  It is a prediction.  If the situation is better, they will be home sooner.  If it is worse they will be there past 2013.  McCain has not been dishonest regarding his position on the war and these statements are not a departure from anything he has said in the past.

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Here's a video of the "sweetie" remark for context:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4STLISLdxi4

 

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I would hope we have some sort of permanent base in Iraq, that will be perpetually staffed with soldiers.  Nothing like the quantity we have now, though.

Matt, you're just a dear for posting that link.

Scott, I'm pretty sure the now-defunct but somewhat legendary hot babes thread had more views.  This might be second, though.
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Do feminists tend to be Democrats or Republicans?

Yet it was a big deal on FOX news - a known bastion for femminism.  And besides - do you believe, in your heart of hearts, that a femminist will hear this and think "Well, that's it!  I can't vote for Obama because he said that.  Instead I'll vote for McCain, who will apoint a conservative judge to the Supreme Court, thus ending the long tyranny of Roe V Wade"

It's very clear that if this is the best they can do against Obama, he's got a pretty easy road to the Presidency.

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I just noticed the number of views on this thread.  By November it will probably hit 1,000,000.  Has any other thread come close on these boards?

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I don't know from page views, but most political/religious threads don't have this kind of shelf life.  They dissolve into anarchy and rage by now.  So what are we doing wrong?

The Daily Show is running on my DVR and they just showed some West Virginia interview clips on why folks were reluctant to vote for Obama.  Here they are, verbatim:

  • "I guess because he is another race, they - I'm sort of scared of the other race because we have so much conflict with 'em."
  • "He's a Muslim, and, y'know, that has a lot to do with it."
  • "I don't like the Hussein thing.  I've had enough of Hussein."

Fuck me gently with a chainsaw.  Now, I know that if you vox populi enough people anywhere on anything you're going to get a few of what Patton Oswalt calls Raisin Cakes.  Hell, if you get me going eventually I'm gonna lay an egg or two also ("Tom Cruise will kill and eat Katie Holmes before this is over.  Count on it.").  But how can people serve up such low-hanging fruit, in America, the most advanced nation on earth?  Because he's another race?  Because he's a Muslim?  Because he has the same middle name as the last name of a former U.S. asset that we ran through the bad-P.R. machine?

Diogenes needs to come back and find me a West Virginian who knows how to construct a syllogism.  I know we're not this bad, but I am lacking for proof right now.



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I don't know from page veiws, but most political/religious threads don't have this kind of shelf life.  They dissolve into anarchy and rage by now.  So what are we doing wrong?

Cut the rhetoric to a minimum and tried to be respectful to one another? Wotta board!



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You forgot the qualifier - "Because he's a Muslim - even though he is NOT a Muslim?"

I hear where you're coming from, Kevin, but remember, as the news kept stressing all week - WV has one of the lowest education rates in America, thus the easy avaliability of such foolish soundbite folk - there are a lot of smarter and better people in America other than those fools.

Hell, we know there's smarter and better people in WV itself!  Look at how many votes Obama got - granted - one of his lowest showings, but it's not like he got 0% of the vote, Kevin.

Still... I have this feeling that after the election, we need to focus some of the US's National Education Budget into WV.  The things these people are saying show a serious lack of basic education and understanding of simple logic.

Stay strong, Kevin - it's easy to be worn down by the mind-numbing stupidity sometimes, but remember - America is better than a few  bad eggs, and there are millions of educated intellegent hard-working and decent folk, of both parties, that make America great.

But - while we're on the subject - you really need to get the new issue of Esquire - the article about the Cynic investigating Obama is right up your alley, at least in terms of being disgusted with the non-sense.  Get it, Kevin!  I think you'll really enjoy it.

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