Scott - do you reject the idea that the current situation is not the same as the old Ellis (or Angel here on the west coast) Island days?  I think, if all the situations were the same, we wouldn't be having this problem.

No, I don't reject it at all.  I whole-heartedly agree they are very different.  Back 100 years ago when people were coming in via Ellis Island, after they left the island they had to fend for themselves.  There were no handouts with our taxes dollars paying for their shelter, healthcare, education, etc.

So, in a way, bigotry does play a role.  But not bigotry based on race, religion, sexual orientation or anything like that.  I'm biased against the sucking sound taking additional dollars out of my wallet to pay for illegals.

Enjoy the movie. It will probably be at least a couple weeks before I can go see it.

Right now, I am sure Mike would like to have all the Americans being French...

From http://www.tv5.org, a French overseas website, there is explanation about the election process, the candidates, the former presidents, etc...

And you can vote for the futur President of the USA. People who visited the site did juste that, and assuming that it is mainly French speaking people ( so a lot of French! ), here is the result:

"Its all relative but I think what Hagee said is about a billion times worse than anything Wright said."

Agreed. BUT...Hagee is not McCain's pastor, nor has he been his spiritual advisor for the past 20 years. That's the difference.

Notice you say "Spiritual" advisor.

So... how does the fact that Wright is mad about the way America has treated blacks fall under spiritual?

And again - where does Obama's record reflect that he took any of that talk seriously?

Now, in fairness, I don't know that McCain's record shows that he's a nazi either, but I have to say - I'm going to continue to slap down any attempt to attach Wright to Obama's policies, because there's just no link there.

Ok - back from Indy Jones - here's the article from the Nose Magazine regarding possible solutions to the immigration problem - from issue 26 - Feb 1995.

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IDEA: Deport all Hispanics on sight, regardless of citizenship

PRO: Has backing of of various ultra-conservative and paramilitary organizations

CON: Outdated Constitution forbids it; overnight collapse of California economy; too much paperwork.

IDEA: Moat along border, filled with piranhas and alligators

PRO: Low maintenance cost - small number of animals introduced as breeding stock, largely fed by hopeful illegal immigrants

CON: Possibility of deadly animals escaping to beaches and wharves of Southern California, with potentially devistating effect on tourist trade.  (Also, piranhas could attack alligators.)

IDEA: Deputize large number of willing [angry people] with guns to patrol border

PRO: Doing something they love, [angry people] will work for little or no pay; boon to liquor and ammunition sales.

CON: High likelihood of lawsuits after [angry people] indiscriminately shoot random citizens.

IDEA: Border patrolled by genetically engineered giant lizards, apes and pterodactyls.

PRO: Potential revenues from Border Force spinoff cartoon series and merchandizing rights.

CON: Gravity would crush giant animals under their own weight.

IDEA: Plant large, carnivorous Venus flytraps along border.

PRO: Also provides convenient disposal of collected roadkill; reduces insect population in area.

CON: Plants unable to distinguish between illegal aliens and curious children.

IDEA: Help build Mexican economy through cooperation and investment.

PRO: Good for US economy and US-Mexico relations.

CON: Even more unpopular with US voters than illegal immigrants are.

IDEA: Remove incentive to enter US by destroying US economy

PRO: Already underway.

CON: Largely defeats purpose.

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That gives me a laugh.

Marc - that's not the whole country - it's just a website.  So, you know, 90% of the people who visit that site voted for him.

90% of France's best educated, most brilliant, savvy and, yes, sharply dressed people.

Viva la France!