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Kevin Hagerman
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http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/2008/05/28/bushs-laws-will- be-scrutinized-if-i-become-president-obama-says/
Sign me up, O'Brien. This is EXACTLY the tone I want someone, anyone to set.
On the Bill Clinton thing: he's pulling out the stops campaigning for the missus, but it's costing him any chance for statesman cred he had. He's got to know this. Slashing and hacking your way to victory makes it easy to be magnaminous if you win, but impossible to appear graceful if you lose. It's less 2008 or bust and more 2012 or bust for Hillary now. And that means cutting Obama down, somehow.
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Brian Hunt
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A President that actually understands the constitution is a novel concept.
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Bill Wiist
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Even if he doesn't understand some other things . . .
How did they get up there?
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Knut Robert Knutsen
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So he asked how Cary Grant's character and the others got up to the top of the monument. So what? The answer isn't "it was a movie set."
The question, properly understood, would be "how would someone get up to the top behind the heads the way Cary Grant's character did in the movie?"
It's like asking how a character in a TV series got from one location in New York to another. The answer isn't "Oh, he's really on a sound stage in LA, the exterior shots are stock footage, so he just walked around a corner. "
The question, like all such questions, presumes that both parties understand the qualifier "in the real world, under normal conditions, how would this fictional situation be accomplished."
It sounds like either the guide failed to grasp this or he made a joke Obama's expense. It's a cheap and common type of joke, I've encountered variations of it often.
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Al Cook
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What kind of elitist uses the word "spiffy", anyway? A slap in the face to us
real elitists, I say.
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Thom Price
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Knut, I think you're reading too much into both the question and the answer. Unless there's more to the conversation not included in the article, the conversation seems like nothing more than a variation of "Did Hitchcock really film up there?" which I'm sure the guide is asked nearly every day. I certainly don't see a cheap and common joke in telling people that Hitchcock filmed on a movie set, not on the actual monument.
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Brian Hunt
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Either way, much ado about nothing. Just people's awe of the monument.
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Kevin Hagerman
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And Obama's ears.
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Bob Neill
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If Bush had asked that question, it would have been because he's a moron.
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Kevin Hagerman
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I'd give all three of my testicles for that to be the dumbest thing Bush had ever done or said...
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Geoff Gibson
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Yes I am 100%. Did you notice the word "after"
Presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) addresses her
supporters after winning the Florida democratic primary election.
You said she wasn't there the day of the primary. The article makes it
clear she was. It also identifies other times before he primary that
Clinton did things that one would generally attribute to campaigning:
"I am a gutter-ball bowler," Clinton said as she campaigned Sunday night
in the state in which she had pledged not to campaign. The remark,
overheard by a Miami Herald reporter, was no doubt meant literally; she
was standing outside Lucky Strike Lanes in Miami Beach. But in politics,
too, Clinton has recently been putting some questionable rotation on the
ball.
Clinton announced plans for the Florida celebration on Sunday, the same
day she held a trio of fundraisers in Florida and accepted the
endorsement of the Miami mayor while pressing some flesh for the
cameras. On Monday, her campaign claimed the endorsement of Sen. Bill
Nelson of Florida, while pro-Clinton unions continued sending out
mailings in her support.
All of this sounded suspiciously like campaigning. But aides said they
were merely trying to protect the people of Florida who, despite the
campaign's "scrupulous" refusal to campaign in the state, showed up to
vote for Clinton anyway.
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Bill Wiist
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Well, that's not the dumbest thing Obama has said or done either. As a
reporter at ABC recently put it, "He's a gaffe-machine." For instance, take
this gem from last week when he said:
"On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen
heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today -- our
sense of patriotism is particularly strong."
Personally, I mostly just laugh at thoughtless comments like these. We all
have brain-farts. They're funny, but not totally discrediting. I do wonder,
however, how people who have judged Quayle and Bush so harshly based
on their gaffes are not similarly questioning Obama's intelligence at this
point.
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