MSNBC is reporting that Obama has resigned from Trinity Church

I saw that. What shocked me about it was his reasons for quitting and the attitude he showed while doing so. It was disingenuous bordering on condescending and pandering. I would have had more respect for him if he had done nothing and just stayed with the church than I do after that.

It's kind of like how I send daily e-mails to Bush asking "Sir, would you please do America a favor and leave office early?"

That gave me a nice laugh.

There's also a difference between being naive and self-deluding...

I guess you would be the expert on that?

Hmmm.  HBO just did the Recount movie.  Maybe this will give them another idea..."

Showtime's "Masters of Horror" series had an episode where a political punidt defended the War in Iraq and said "I wish they all could come back and tell you they believed in this war." 

Then they came back. All the soldiers who ever died in foreign wars. An army of Zombies. And they let the US government know: "we're back and you'd better listen. Stop the war. Now. "

Kinda cool.

Ah, Knut, do you mean "Homecoming" by Joe Dante?  That was a good one.

I saw that. What shocked me about it was his reasons for quitting and the attitude he showed while doing so. It was disingenuous bordering on condescending and pandering.

Scott -- you support Hillary Clinton -- and you are getting on Obama for being condescending and pandering? What did you call her support of the Gas Tax Holiday?*

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I saw that. What shocked me about it was his reasons for quitting and the attitude he showed while doing so. It was disingenuous bordering on condescending and pandering.

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Scott -- you support Hillary Clinton -- and you are getting on Obama for being condescending and pandering? What did you call her support of the Gas Tax Holiday?

Apples and oranges.  Did you see the video of him leaving the church?  It boiled down to "I don't believe for a moment that I should be resigning but I'm resigning to shut all the whining people up."

Apples and oranges.  Did you see the video of him leaving the church?  It boiled down to "I don't believe for a moment that I should be resigning but I'm resigning to shut all the whining people up."

Lets assume, arguendo, that your analysis of his "leaving the church" is spot on.  Obama is leaving a church for political expedency.  Not because he doesn't get some spirtual benefit from it, but because the politics of the church is found objectionable by many.  So Obama is making a political move that is affecting his rights (namely to organize with the church of his choice).  Is it  a political decision? Yes.  Does it affect other americans? No.

By contrast in supporting the "Gas Tax Holiday" Clinton is not making a political move that affects her -- she was making a gesture that is hollow and untrue for political gain.  Does it affect other americans? Yes because by relaxing the gas tax the gain that everyday americans would have seen was insignificant compared to the impact the suspension would have had on our national debt. 

Lets continue.  What about her flip flop on NAFTA?  As New York's senator she has (rightly in my mind) been one of NAFTA's most vigorous supporters.  Whilst campaigning in Ohio, however, she attacked NAFTA as an unjust law that takes away people's jobs.  She changed her position on one of our major trade agreements for political expediency.  Is that not pandering?

I'm not even going to get into her war vote because in fairness it would be mind reading. But needless to say I can make a case that she came to that conclusion based on political motives.

So Obama pandered and it affected his life -- not yours, not mine, not anyone but he and his family.  Clinton has pandered and it could have threated our ballooning national debt or threatened a free trade agreement that is good for our national economy (assuming you believe (as I do) that free trade is good).  Tell me, which is worse?

If you want to call strikes on Obama be my guest.  Just make sure you call a fair strike zone as to both candidates.