She basically said she can't completely voice her full support because it would alienate a significant portion of the voters

PROVING that Hillary has no balls.  If you're for something, SAY it.  If it alienates people, be a politician and SHOW them the way!  Otherwise, it's simply words.

Obama has done the same thing.

It has nothing to do with balls and everything to do with intelligence.  You can't change the nation if you can't get into office.  That's one problem I have with my fellow gays.  They want the politicians to come out and support everything they want 100% and do it on the record.   That person wouldn't have a shot in hell of ever being elected if they did that.  Pure common sense.

I am always proud of country, I am not always proud of my government.

I guess we can't call you Michelle then.  :P

Let me ask you Scott -- where does she stand on DOMA?  I want to be clear -- I am not asking about whether she supports Gay Marriage -- I am asking does she believe DOMA should be law?  Does she support its repeal?

Good question but hard to answer.  On the record, she doesn't support it's repeal because of the alienation factor.  Based on her other leanings, I'm guessing she wouldn't do anything to prevent it from being repealed if she was in office

Here are Obama's positions on "Gay Rights."   He supports civil unions and calls for the repeal of DOMA.  I looked on Senator Clinton's site but I couldn't find anything on those issues (hence my earlier question regarding DOMA).

http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/lgbt.pdf

Edited to correct:  I did not check Clinton's site regaridng Civil Unions only DOMA.  My bad.

A quick withdrawal is not without historical precedent.  You declare victory and just go home.  Happened in Vietnam.  The case for remaining in Iraq is overstated, in my opinion, if the war isn't about oil. 

Brian, Damn I like you. But you forgot about corporate greed, i.e. halliburton for the reason being there.

A quick withdrawal is not without historical precedent.  You declare victory and just go home.  Happened in Vietnam.  The case for remaining in Iraq is overstated, in my opinion, if the war isn't about oil. 

My feeling on this issue is that we started this stupid war.  We brought this conflict to the people of Iraq.  We have a moral imperative to fix what we broke.  The question (and I don't know the answer) is how?  I am not convinced that a total withdrawl is the answer.

I guess we can't call you Michelle then.

I certainly was not proud of my President when he lied under oath. 

Here's Obama on "Gay Issues" to The Advocate: http://www.advocate.com/print_article_ektid53285.asp

According to the writer, Clinton supports the repeal of DOMA only as it pertains to repealing the plank of DOMA that prohibits the federal government from recognizing state-sanctioned unions. From that article comes this quote which I think articulates what I find appealing about him even though I disagree with many of his positions:

"I tell you what -- my campaign is premised on trying to reach as many constituencies as possible and to go into as many places as possible, and sometimes that creates discomfort or turbulence. This goes back to your first question. If you’re segmenting your base into neat categories and constituency groups and you never try to bring them together and you just speak to them individually -- so I keep the African-Americans neatly over here and the church folks neatly over there and the LGBT community neatly over there -- then these kinds of issues don’t arise.

The flip side of it is, you never create the opportunity for people to have a conversation and to lift some of these issues up and to talk about them and to struggle with them, and our campaign is built around the idea that we should all be talking. And that creates some discomfort because people discover, gosh, within the Democratic Party or within Barack Obama’s campaign or within whatever sets of constituencies there are going to be some different points of view that might even be offensive to some folks. That’s not unique to this issue. I mean, ironically, my biggest … the biggest political news surrounding me over the last three weeks has been Reverend Wright, who offended a whole huge constituency with some of his statements but has been very good on gay and lesbian issues. I mean he’s one of the leaders in the African-American community of embracing, speaking out against homophobia, and talking about the importance of AIDS.

And so nobody is going to be perfectly aligned with my views. So what I hope is that people take me for who I am, for what I’ve said, and for what I’ve displayed in terms of my commitment to these issues, but understanding that there’s going to be a range of constituencies that I’m reaching out to and working on issues that we have in common, even though I may differ with them on other issues. And that’s true, also, by the way … well, I think that’s going to be true so long as I’m reaching out beyond the traditional Democratic base." 

Edited to emphasize.

I think he does it to his detriment as well -- which I really admire about him.