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Paulo Pereira
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| "Thus your "extra skepticism" towards him can onlly be construed as prejudice."
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Yes. You are singling out one guy over the other.
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Jodi Moisan
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Do you know the scout master? Do you trust him? What do you know of the friend? If the answer to those questions is no or nothing, then please don't send your son on a trip with him. But if the answer is yes, and the Scoutmaster takes responsibility for your son and promises to protect him and you trust him, I'd say go enjoy Knoxville.
Where have I articulated lax parental responsibilities?
Oh with you it's great parenting, to me and Greg it's prejudice.
Edited by Jodi Moisan on 05 June 2008 at 3:07pm
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Michael Roberts
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Michael are you saying you wouldn't let him go? Isn't that predjudice??????
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No, I'm saying it would depend how well you knew the person. If you knew
the scout leader well and trusted him, it should not matter if he has kids of
his own or not, and you can use your own judgment whether or not to let
him go. If you don't know him well, you shouldn't be making your judgment
based on whether he has kids of his own or not.
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Jodi Moisan
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Todd: Not verbatim, no.
EXACTLY
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Todd Douglas
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I'm pretty much on the same page as Geoff.
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Geoff Gibson
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I added this before I saw your response Jodie, mea culpa:
All along I've said anyone (regardless of gender) who your kid deals with you should know and trust. But I don't distrust a man more than a woman simply because of his gender. Based on your posts you do, Jodie.
The bold is the prejudice.
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Todd Douglas
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And yet that interpretation meshes perfectly with your words that WERE verbatim.
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Geoff Gibson
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Oh with you it's great parenting, to me and Greg it's prejudice.
I am confused please explain.
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Michael Roberts
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Oh with you it's great parenting, to me and Greg it's prejudice.
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Jodi, pretty much all the people that have been arguing with Greg on this
and the other thread are explicitly not saying that parents shouldn't
scrutinize adults who are alone with their children. What they ARE saying is
that it is unreasonable to use the criterion of whether or not a man has
children of his own as a factor in their scrutiny. Do you not understand the
distinction?
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Geoff Gibson
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To reiterate from page 107 my comments:
Understand -- I am not articulating a a disregard for who spends time with children. You better believe that I make certain that anyone around my daughters is someone my wife and I agree will do them no harm. I am simply stating that default prejudice against men is unfair and indistinguishable from other kinds of profiling.
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Donald Miller
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Jodie,
Don't let him go, I know that man...he doesn't wear a helmet when he shreds, and that is simply not cool....
D-
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Jodi Moisan
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Do I think women are more trustworthy, concerning molestation then men. Yes I will agree with that statement.
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