You're either for abortion being legal or against abortion being legal. 

Generally I agree -- with a complexity -- you can favor abortion but not believe the right to an abortion is a "fundamental" right.

Knitting, knitting, knitting -- all on the Rue d' merde

We are so poor we don't even have a language!  

She's right-- we all sound like Maurice Chevalier!  

While I think Bush has been a horrible president, I can't argue he's been unsuccessful.  He may not have achieved his stated goal in Iraq, but I don't doubt for a second he got what he wanted.  For better or worse, the future of an oil-rich country smack dab in the middle of the Middle East is now explicitly linked to us.

He concentrated the powers of government into the executive branch.

He got large tax breaks, and their permanence is a distinct possibility.

He politicized many parts of government in search of a permanent Republican control over the political process.

He has taken formerly government roles and privatized them.

His only real failure was Social Security rape reform.

I hate the "choice" argument. That falls flat if indeed abortion is murder. If it is, then I'm sorry, you don't have the choice to do that.

I believe that life begins at conception, but I know some, do not feel that way. As in the case with religion, I don't believe in god, but I will not try to force someone to believe as I do. The majority of the country believe abortion should be legal. I am not the absolute voice on what is right and wrong and I will not force my feeling on this issue, on others.

To me it is not about, "not taking a position", it's about not shoving my belief system onto someone else. Most women that do make that choice, do not take it lightly and I feel it is not my place to judge on that very personal decision.  

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You're either for abortion being legal or against abortion being legal.

Now if you are asking if I think it should be legal, yes I believe that is under the heading Pro Choice. 

I believe that life begins at conception.  I also believe that if a woman is pregnant and doesn't want to be, she should have options galore and on demand - the reason we have many third trimester abortions is because of the roadblocks established to "run out the clock".  Her body is her body.

If anti-abortion people want to foot the bill for an adoption, let her know.  She retains the right to say no at any time.

If the father objects - tough.  He should have fucked someone else.

Obviously it's never going to be this cut-and-dried.  If the baby is crowning and the mother suddenly changes her mind, I'd be hard pressed to apporve of killing the baby at that point.  But we could avoid many abortions with more openess and education.  There's fault to be found with the current zygote-worship that drives the anti-abortion movement.

Should Stonewall have never happened?  There was no immediate benefit.

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Scott, I understand the point you were making in your post, but you can't possibly believe that there was no immediate benefit to Stonewall! 

I know about Stonewall :P

I was just trying to make an analogy that I knew would hit home considering the recent nuptials in your life :)

On to the other topic at hand.

I am completely opposed to abortion.  I think it's wrong unless it's to save the life of the mother.  Don't like it a bit.

That said, that's only how I feel about the act but not what I think the law should be.  I should have no say in what another person does with their body.  The only time I think a man might have any say would be in a case where it's a marriage.  I don't know that a wife should be able to do it without the consent of her husband since the child is a part of both of them, conceived during the marriage