Active Topics | Member List | Search | Help | Register | Login
The John Byrne Forum
Byrne Robotics > The John Byrne Forum << Prev Page of 1093 Next >>
Topic: US Presidential Election (Topic Closed Topic Closed) Post ReplyPost New Topic
Author
Message
Geoff Gibson
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 21 April 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 5741
Posted: 19 June 2008 at 9:31am | IP Logged | 1  

Obama has backed out of the public financing of his campaign.  Obama Opts Out of Public Financing for his Campaign.
Back to Top profile | search e-mail
 
Jeff Gillmer
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 30 August 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 1920
Posted: 19 June 2008 at 9:55am | IP Logged | 2  

"If they seated them, FOX News would have used it as "proof" that Obama is keeping a Muslim harem."
Instead of blaming someone for something that they didn't do, maybe Obama and his handlers should be a tad bit more careful and not give their opponents any ammo to use?  It's not the first time they have been caught trying to "stack the audience" to make a better photo op.  And yes, I know all candidates do it, but the Obama campaign has made an joke out of the game of musical chairs.

"Obama has backed out of the public financing of his campaign."
When a politician doesn't break a promise, let me know.  That would actually be news!  Seriously though, that's something you will be able to see reported on Fox News.  Expect constant playing of the video of Obama saying he'll go for public financing, followed by him backing out.  It should be shown on all networks, except for maybe MSNBC. 

Back to Top profile | search
 
Joe Zhang
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 16 April 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 12857
Posted: 19 June 2008 at 10:13am | IP Logged | 3  

"And yes, I know all candidates do it, but the Obama campaign has made an joke out of the game of musical chairs."

How so?
Back to Top profile | search e-mail
 
Scott Richards
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 22 September 2005
Posts: 1258
Posted: 19 June 2008 at 10:23am | IP Logged | 4  

Obama has backed out of the public financing of his campaign.  Obama Opts Out of Public Financing for his Campaign.

My first thought was, "Wow, that's pretty cool".  Then I read it and got to the part where it said, "With his decision, Mr. Obama became the first candidate of a major party to decline public financing — and the spending limits that go with it"

So it's really all about getting around the spending limits.  It shows that his campaign understands that the only chance they have to beat McCain is to significantly outspend McCain.  That's something that couldn't be done with a level playing field.

One nice thing is that at least I know my tax dollars won't be used, then if he loses, no tax dollars are wasted.



Edited by Scott Richards on 19 June 2008 at 10:25am
Back to Top profile | search
 
Jeff Gillmer
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 30 August 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 1920
Posted: 19 June 2008 at 10:25am | IP Logged | 5  

Need More White People Here

Back to Top profile | search
 
Geoff Gibson
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 21 April 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 5741
Posted: 19 June 2008 at 10:27am | IP Logged | 6  

With the machine Obama has built he'd be stupid not to back away from that "promise."  I don't have an issue with someone changing their mind as long as they are honest about it.
Back to Top profile | search e-mail
 
Scott Richards
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 22 September 2005
Posts: 1258
Posted: 19 June 2008 at 10:31am | IP Logged | 7  

Wow Jeff.  More musical chairs.

McCain isn't going to have to do anything.  Who'd have thought Obama's biggest enemy was going to turn out to be his own campaigners?



Edited by Scott Richards on 19 June 2008 at 10:34am
Back to Top profile | search
 
Jodi Moisan
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 19 February 2008
Location: United States
Posts: 6808
Posted: 19 June 2008 at 11:12am | IP Logged | 8  

OK lets recap,

Obama's workers want a diverse crowd behind their speaker.( As any campaign wants)

McCain thinks being in Iraq 100 years is OK.

Hmmmmm which upsets me most??????

And yes how dare Obama want to save the taxpayers 84 million. God I hope this isn't some crazy trend he is trying to set.



Edited by Jodi Moisan on 19 June 2008 at 11:14am
Back to Top profile | search | www
 
Scott Richards
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 22 September 2005
Posts: 1258
Posted: 19 June 2008 at 11:40am | IP Logged | 9  

McCain thinks being in Iraq 100 years is OK

Why do Obamites always misuse that statement?  He said no such thing.  He said it's possible we could be.  He didn't say he wanted to be.  He didn't say it was okay to be.  He said it was possible.  Obama couldn't guarantee any different.  McCain does want us in Iraq any more than Obama does.  McCain is just more of a realist in that regard.

Obama doesn't trust Muslims.  After all, they couldn't sit near him.  That's every bit as valid (and incorrect) a statement as what you said about McCain.



Edited by Scott Richards on 19 June 2008 at 11:42am
Back to Top profile | search
 
Thom Price
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar
L’Homme Diabolique

Joined: 29 April 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 7592
Posted: 19 June 2008 at 11:46am | IP Logged | 10  

yes how dare Obama want to save the taxpayers 84 million

***

Please tell me you don't actually believe that's the reason Obama is declining public funding?  I don't blame him -- he knows he can raise more on his own, giving him an advantage -- but it was stupid of him to ever put it out there that he would accept the public funding, just to go back on it.
Back to Top profile | search | www e-mail
 
Geoff Gibson
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 21 April 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 5741
Posted: 19 June 2008 at 11:55am | IP Logged | 11  

McCain thinks being in Iraq 100 years is OK.

And Michele Obama was never proud of her country before her husband was running for president.  Thats just as silly a stretch of what she said as the "100 years in Iraq" blurb said by McCain. 

And yes how dare Obama want to save the taxpayers 84 million. God I hope this isn't some crazy trend he is trying to set.

He's not backing of his "pledge" for the taxpayers.  Its because he can raise more than 84 million.  If he takes the Federal dollars he's capped.  Without them he can spend every penny he brings in, which, based on his success in the primaries, will far exceed 84 million.  Thats not being anything other than smart, but it also not based on some noble intention to save our tax dollars.

*Edited to Add: To the first point, Obama's clinging to guns and religion comment was as misinterpreted as McCain's 100 years in Iraq comment.  I think thats a better example than something said by a candidate's spouse -- but I had a brain malfunction before.



Edited by Geoff Gibson on 19 June 2008 at 12:03pm
Back to Top profile | search e-mail
 
Scott Richards
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 22 September 2005
Posts: 1258
Posted: 19 June 2008 at 12:50pm | IP Logged | 12  

yes how dare Obama want to save the taxpayers 84 million

***

Please tell me you don't actually believe that's the reason Obama is declining public funding?

There is nothing altruistic about it.  He knows the only chance he has to beat McCain is to outspend McCain.

If he were allowed to use public funding and supplement it with private funding and ignore any cap, you can bet he would take the entire 84.1 million dollars.

Back to Top profile | search
 

<< Prev Page of 1093 Next >>
  Post ReplyPost New Topic
Printable version Printable version

Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

 Active Topics | Member List | Search | Help | Register | Login