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Jeff Gillmer
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Posted: 19 June 2008 at 2:52pm | IP Logged | 1  

"At least the Obama campaign doesn't stack the crowd"

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!  Oh My God!  Did you actually type that with a straight face?

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Matt you don't for a little bit, think that a man that has said all along he doesn't accept money from lobbyist and wants to give government back to the people. May want to do this partly because it is a way to stop using taxpayers money.

Do I think the spending limit is part of the reason behind this, yes I am sure it was, but I also think it is a feather in his cap to turn down taxpayers money in an economy that has bottomed out.  Bush raised more money then Kerry, did he turn down the money and save taxpayers millions?  

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Sorry, Keith, but I had to cut your direct quote of an article.  Read the "Excerpting the AP" thread I posted a couple of days ago as to the why.  If need be, please paraphrase what you originally quoted~Matt

Jesus H. Christ.  Now, I don't hold this against Obama or his wife, because I'm sure every major candidate does this sort of crap.

But how screwed up is it that blatantly racist sh*t like this can go on without be roundly condemned by everyone involved.  The frustrating thing is that the event coordinators were probably quite proud about the "so pretty" results of their racism.

If I was at any event where that was going on, republican or democrat, I'd be out the door.


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 Jodi Moisan wrote:
Matt you don't for a little bit, think that a man that has said all along he doesn't accept money from lobbyist and wants to give government back to the people. May want to do this partly because it is a way to stop using taxpayers money.

Like it's been said upthread, Jodi, this money is appropriated only for this spending.  It's not as if Obama would be taking anything away from the taxpayers, nor will this money go on to fund anything else but election campaigns.  The only reason not to take it is if you think you can raise more money without it. 

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Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!  Oh My God!  Did you actually type that with a straight face?

I worked for the Obama campaign during his events in Indiana and not once did I see his campaign stacking the crowd, tickets were given on a first come first serve basis. In fact they went above and beyond making sure it was fair for everyone.

Have we really gotten so jaded that when someone that comes along that wants to rise above politics as usual. We all attack him for non issues. You know I am a firm believer we get what we deserve. I guess maybe Bush is the best we can do.

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I also think it is a feather in his cap to turn down taxpayers money in an economy that has bottomed out.

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So he can turn around and put the bite on them personally?  Sorry, it doesn't wash.  If he were funding it out of his own pocket, your point might stand.  As it is, either way his campaign money is coming from tax payers in a bottomed out economy.
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Are you serious???? Really................ Do you understand how donating to a campaign works? 

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Have we really gotten so jaded that when someone that comes along that wants to rise above politics as usual. We all attack him for non issues. You know I am a firm believer we get what we deserve. I guess maybe Bush is the best we can do.

 

 



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Barack is trying to rise above politics as usual by not accepting tax payers money and even in that he is put down. You all say you want something different and when someone comes along and offers it you find fault. Boy I can't wait to see what the swift boaters do with this.

Come on Jodi you really believe thats why he did it? Heck, I like the guy and I don't buy it.  He's making the smart move because he's built an impressive machine that is practically printing money.  When he agreed to use Federal dollars he did so not knowing he'd be the rock star he is today.  Now he can raise far more than he would get from the Feds so he'd be a fool to lock himself into capped budget.  If McCain had the same kind of support he'd back out of the Federal dollars as well.

And it should be noted that the first 527 to attack was moveon.org with their detestable commercial with the mother and the kid.  Thats politics as usual.



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You're clinging to a delusion that Obama is turning down public funding because he doesn't want to drain taxpayer's money during a poor economy, and yet you think it's okay for him to hit up his followers for the money?  The Obama campaign has crowed all along about their ability to raise money from small donors, as opposed to the wealthy Clinton-esque contributors.  I'd love to know how hitting up lower and middle class voters for cash is somehow better than taking money that is designated for that purpose?
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And it should be noted that the first 527 to attack was moveon.org with their detestable commercial with the mother and the kid.  Thats politics as usual.

 Geoff what was this?

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 Jodi Moisan wrote:
Have we really gotten so jaded that when someone that comes along that wants to rise above politics as usual. We all attack him for non issues. You know I am a firm believer we get what we deserve. I guess maybe Bush is the best we can do.

Heard you the first time!

I'm a firm believer in being pragmatic, Jodi.  Obama hasn't come out and said that he's doing this for the good of the taxpayers.  He's simply said he's not taking public funds.  It's his supporters who are spinning this way out of proportion, saying it's another act of selflessness on his part when, pragmatically, it's really about choosing the right course of action that will allow him to spend the most money possible during this election.

I think there are a ton of things we can crow about with regard to Obama that we don't have to twist something like this into near messianic proportions.

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You're clinging to a delusion that Obama is turning down public funding because he doesn't want to drain taxpayer's money during a poor economy, and yet you think it's okay for him to hit up his followers for the money?  The Obama campaign has crowed all along about their ability to raise money from small donors, as opposed to the wealthy Clinton-esque contributors.  I'd love to know how hitting up lower and middle class voters for cash is somehow better than taking money that is designated for that purpose?

Because he is not indebted to big companies he is indebted to the common guy, the person that gives as little as a dollar. Seriously you all need to listen to what he says.

But wait lets do it the republican way and get big oil to get us into office, I am keyed up to spend 100 years in Iraq, hey that means my 12 year old may be able to go there.

 



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