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Greg Reeves
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By the way, though divorce statistics hold fairly steady at 50%, most singles marry again (and perhaps again). The number of single adults is very, very small when you consider later marriages. For the average person, it makes sense both financially and emotionally to be married, and as Joel mentioned, supports the stats for success and emotional stability of the child.
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Al Cook
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Joel, you stated your point of view, I stated mine. I really didn't want you
to think that mine was a personal stab at yours, so I said so. Saying so
was in no way a "try" or anything else. Sorry if my awkward attempt to
assure you that I don't hold your opinion on the matter against you
backfired.
I would be very interested in the statistics that show two parent
households are better for the child. (Seems a very subjective thing
for an attempt at statistical quantification.)
And there's the heart of it; this is all very subjective. We just 'subject'
differently, no?
Yeah, I feel that the notion that it's absolutely necessary to have two
parents to raise a child is outdated, and prejudiced. Oh well.
I may disagree with your opinion, but you're still worthy of respect.
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Al Cook
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Greg Reeves wrote:
I don't know. It's one thing to learn to be tolerant of
other sexual preferences, but it's another to be directly influenced day after
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Think of it the other way around then, Greg. What must it be like for a gay
child to be raised by straight parents? The pressure that child must feel,
influenced day after day with a lifestyle alternative to their own...
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Mike O'Brien
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And more to the point, who are any of us to decide and enforce what is "normal"?
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Kevin Hagerman
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Y'know, Doom was a highly resourceful single adoptive parent to Kristoff, and we all know how THAT turned out...
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Greg Reeves
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{Responding to Al} Well, that's an interesting point. Though I'm not sure the child can be considered yet to have an alternative lifestyle to their parents (probably depends on their age- are they truly little children or adolescents with a social life). Also, what is the consensus on the "cause" of homosexuality? Is there any definitive evidence that it is a personality trait inherited or developed before birth? Certainly there are examples of people that live a homosexual lifestyle from experimentation rather than always "being" gay. I'd be interested to know, and I have no firm beliefs on any issue dealing with adoption, etc (except that I wholeheartedly agree with gay marriage).
Edited by Greg Reeves on 16 July 2008 at 4:34pm
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Al Cook
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I believe gay is from birth, but I have no reference materials on hand to back
that up. Good opportunity for our gay forum members to chime in:
Always gay? When did you first realize?
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Michael Roberts
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Twin studies show that monozygotic twins are more likely to both be
homosexual than dizygotic twins. This number is still in the 20-30 percent
range, however, so it can't all be due to genetic factors. There has been
another study that the likelihood a male is gay increases with the number of
older brothers he has. This hints at some hormonal factor in the womb. It is
likely a complex interaction of genetics and uterine environment.
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Bob Neill
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I like pie.
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Al Cook
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Hotdog pie?
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Tom French
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I'm still not adopting a gay.
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Joel Tesch
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I believe gay is from birth, but I have no reference materials on hand to back that up.
I agree Al (and sorry if I was being touchy before). I'm not gay...but I use myself as an example. At no point did I "decide" or choose to be straight. I just am. As a tyke, way before I even knew what gay and straight was, I knew I felt differently when Ginger was on screen than when the Professor was.
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