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Joe Zhang
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An imaginary disaster that the equally imaginary FEMA must have done much to avert.
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Kevin Hagerman
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Hey, show some respect. I died in that tornado.
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Steven Myers
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Hmmm...this thread is all over the place. Anyway, what I find entertaining: The O'Biden ticket! That sounds cool! Sounds like an Irish guy.
The "Bush/McCain years". Very clever. And good strategy.
This VP stuff is entertaining, but was anybody really waiting to decide who to vote for based on VP picks? I think they'll see who makes the most embarrassing blunder the week before the election and vote the other guy.
Oooo. That sounded a bit cynical. I'm sorry, but I hear far too many people who are voting for someone for the most assinine reasons. C'mon, people, whoever you favor, at least have a good rationale for your pick!
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Bob Neill
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Oh, bomb a Biden.
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Thom Price
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IMO, Lieberman would make it a slam dunk for McCain. All they would
have to do change the direction of the campaign to something like "Vote
for Real Change" and then promote the ticket as non-partisan.
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If McCain were to select a central-leaning VP, it would pretty much ensure my vote. My only concern regarding McCain is that he will have to, like all Republican candidates, sell his soul to the religious right. If McCain picks a moderate running mate, the fundamentalists will undoubtedly take it as a snub -- and I could happily vote for a middle of the road Republican.
Although I vaguely admire Obama having the chutzpah to select a VP candidate who has been openly critical of him, it was a really bad choice. Biden has flat-out said that Obama is not ready to be President -- and stood by his comment -- so he will now have to spend the rest of the campaign spinning and back peddling.
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Steven Myers
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That's my big disappointment in McCain. He's not the "Maverick Senator" anymore. And no, I won't believe him to be the old McCain if he picks a centrist running mate. If he wanted to be the Independent Thinker, he should be doing it now!
Of course, I'd take him any day over Dubya. In fact, I'd take any Presidential candidate of my lifetime over Dubya. Oh, wait. Though I was too young to remember, Nixon was in my lifetime...
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Joel Tesch
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Oh, wait. Though I was too young to remember, Nixon was in my lifetime...
I'd take Nixon in a heartbeat over W...
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Mark Waldman
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I'm very sick of the election. I hope Obama wins, but don't have much faith in America or the process anymore.
I used to have better feelings for McCain, he actually seemed to have principles in the past and was destroyed by his own party and the Bush machine. Now, with no other hope, the Republicans dusted off this "hero" and are trying to sell him as the ONLY choice for the office. Sadly, I very much remember how he was trashed, said to be crazy, fathered black children, etc., etc. You can't have it both ways, Republicans. If he was batsh*t crazy and unqualified in 2000, how is he so wonderful today? Lucky for the right no one pays attention - too busy downloading itunes, checking out their iphones, playing video games and worrying about celebrities.
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Joel Tesch
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You're WAY overstating it and oversimplifying it Mark. First off, McCain was never "destroyed by his own party." Many Republicans stood by McCain. He's remained a senator and influential enough to win his party's nomination 8 years later. Yes, the Bush team played nasty/dirty in the primaries with him. But it's no different than how the Clinton team played dirty with Obama. It just didn't work this time. And as far as Republicans having it "both ways"...sure, the Democrats NEVER do that. That certainly wasn't Hilary I saw yesterday supporting Obama. That's certainly not Joe Biden, who stood by his statement that Obama "wasn't ready" that's now 100% certain he's the man for the job.
It's not just a right and left thing. BOTH political parties are guilty of this. But too many people only see these faults in the other party.
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Kevin Hagerman
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I'd take Nixon in a heartbeat over W...
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I think Nixon on meds could've been a great president. He just needed a chill pill.
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Geoff Gibson
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Nixon, like Bill Clinton, is an almost Shakespearean character. On the one hand he was a paranoid nut job who craved control and power. On the other he was a very effective president. Obviously Watergate forever effected his legacy but I suspect history would have judged him in a much more positive light had he not let his own fears control him.
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Joe Zhang
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Making Nixon look good will probably be GWB's strangest legacies.
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