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Matt Reed
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Wish there were more of you back in '04, Geoff!
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Joel Tesch
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Vote the bums out. When the politicians stop looking at their elected position as a career, they'll be free to actually do their job.

I agree 100%. The founding fathers NEVER intended politics to be a career. It was supposed to be "of the people"...regular citizens who would serve a term, and then return to their old job and position in the community.  I'm a huge proponent of term limits for this reason. So much corruption and influence peddling is a result of this.

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I agree with term limits as well. 

Heck, if I had my way, all of the House and Senate and the President would be limited to a single 6 year term.  It would be enough time to get things done and they wouldn't be spending half their term working on getting re-elected.  They could do things they really believed in instead of doing the bidding of the ones who would be contributing to the re-election campaign.

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The old axiom is true: we get the government we deserve.  Citizenship is not supposed to be a passive thing.  You don't have to work on a campaign to be active.  If you get called by a pollster be honest with them.  Write to your local newspaper if something bothers you or write your congressperson. The easiest thing to do is to donate money to causes you believe in.*   

I may disagree with some of Jodi's politics but I admire the hell out of the fact that she walks the walk.

*It must be the easiest because its what I do -- also sometimes you get a deduction --- win-win!!!!



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Mark,

First off, please don't lecture me (smile) on the lack of influence of a Vice-President on an administration while DICK Cheney is Vice-President as you type.  And, he was immediately preceded by Al Gore, a Vice-President given a high level of influence by President Clinton.

I long for the days when a Vice-President's job was to do what they were intended to do: NOTHING, save acting as President of the Senate... which really meant casting rare tie-breaking votes, which more often than not meant acting as an "internal" Article I CHECK on the President since a Vice-President was the guy who LOST to the President and no doubt not much of a "team-player" in the administration.

Jodi,

Even BEFORE Biden was selected, I posted, in this very thread, that I thought he was a "shrill" "admitted plagiarist" who brings no electoral strength to the ticket.  What didn't you understand?
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Kevin Hagerman
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...save acting as President of the Senate...

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Don't forget funerals!

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Tom French
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I'm telling you -- it's my kind of job!  More, I could play piano at receptions and wakes! 

Too bad I'm not a lawyer.  But some of the lawyers I know, it can't be THAT big of a deal (except I don't like to argue). 



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David Ferguson
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Has McCain picked his VP candidate yet?

On a serious note, don't you think his choice might be more important than Obama's choice due to the age thing. The stress of the job ages people and it could (I wouldn't wish it on anyone) kill the guy so there is a possibiity that his choice would be required to replace him or this something you guys consider when voting for any presidential candidate?
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..save acting as President of the Senate...

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and NASA!
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Jodi Moisan
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I am not crazy about term limits, we would lose some really good elected officials, John McCain is a great moderate Republican and Ted Kennedy is a great Democrat, I feel like the reason for term limits, is because we as voters are too lazy to look at voting records, we rely on sound bites, and I am sometimes guilty of this too.  We as voters have got to get more engaged, we have got to come down harder on our elected official when they do wrong. Get rid of special interest and give limited access to lobbyist, take some of their power away.

What didn't you understand?

Marc sorry I didn't see your previous post, it might have been when I was taking a time out on the presidential thread for not playing nice. :0) But on Biden I do like his voting record and I think we will have to agree to disagree on that VP choice.

Geoff thanks for the kind words I will pass the compliment to my dad, he is a man that is truely an American Patriot. He was inspired by John  Kennedy, I grew up knowing the quote "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country", he expected us to put those words into practice.

Another speech we were encouraged to know was Robert Kennedys eulogy, in  the first paragraph the area I put in bold we all knew by heart. And it really does sound like the kind of man my dad is and the kind of person I hope to aspire to be.

"My brother need not be idealized, or enlarged in death beyond what he was in life, to be remembered simply as a good decent man, who saw wrong and tried to right it, saw suffering and tried to heal it, saw war and tried to stop it.

"Those of us, who loved him and who take him to his rest today pray that what he was to us and what he wished for others will someday come to pass for all the world.

"As he said many times, in many parts of this nation, to those he touched and who sought to touch him: 'Some men see things as they are and say why. I dream things that never were and say why not.'"

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Geoff Gibson
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But some of the lawyers I know, it can't be THAT big of a deal

Obviously not. :o)
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Mark Waldman
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GREAT speech by Joe Biden tonight.  Terrific stuff.
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