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Tony Johnson
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Obama's acceptance speech was incredible.  I literally felt the emotions that were being generated in that arena and I truly believe he is the absolute best thing for America at this time.  I can't imagine America if McCain wins. Let me take that back, I can imagine America if McCain wins, and it's basically a continuance of the last 8-years. 

I know that politics is a topic that generates potentially heated debates, but the one thing that frustrates the hell out of me is the fact that some people vote solely based on the party.  In other words, it does not matter if the other candidate is better qualified, they stick to their party out of pure pride and ignorance.  Personally, I've voted for both parties and I vote based on the person and the ideas/principles that he/she is offering.  I voted for Reagan, as well as Clinton because I saw the message in the PERSON and not the PARTY. 

I think this election will see more cross party "jumping" but I'm still seeing/hearing people planning to vote for McCain and even Obama purely because of party status.  Stupid in my opinion.   

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I'm really looking forward to the debates between these four candidates.
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He adopted one. Is that proof enough for you?

Ahh, yes, the daughter he adopted from Bangladesh.  Bangladesh, Vietnam.  What?  Oh, Bangladesh is not Vietnam!  C'mon, I wrote Southeast Asia, referring to Vietnam where he fought, was shot down, and held.  Even he should be able to make the distinction between a person from Vietnam and one from Bangladesh.  That's like comparing India to Cambodia.

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George Washington; best leader of the last three hundred years, in any country, for one thing.

Wow, you're going to compare the father of America more than 2 centuries ago to the current state of affairs?  I'm not saying that a military man can't be a great leader, I'm saying that we shouldn't employ a man who spent the early part of his life learning how to kill, and was captured and tortured for years, into the position that is supposed to be leading the world in peace and diplomacy.  Perhaps I'm biased as a teacher, but I feel we need to get leaders accustomed to picking up books instead of rifles.  We have a military; that's what they're for- just don't put a soldier into the presidency any more.

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I know that McCain actually visited Vietnam prior to the 2000 election. He was yukking it up with his old Communist enemies and having a good laugh at a placard hung up at his old prison. It read something like "no abuses happened here." 
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"Is McCain Out of His Mind?"
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Ahh, yes, the daughter he adopted from Bangladesh.  Bangladesh, Vietnam.  What?  Oh, Bangladesh is not Vietnam!  C'mon, I wrote Southeast Asia, referring to Vietnam where he fought, was shot down, and held.  Even he should be able to make the distinction between a person from Vietnam and one from Bangladesh.  That's like comparing India to Cambodia.

I see what you're saying Greg...but McCain's been in the public eye for decades now. I think if he harbored some of those prejudices or hatred (at least to the point where it would affect his actions), we would have seen signs of it by now. 

I think a more relevant argument against McCain (and one that Obama FINALLY touched on his his speech Thursday...and I hope continues to emphasize) is his questionable judgement (plenty of examples) and temperament.

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Bahahahahahaha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUMWJoLR1sM&feature=relat ed

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How about the words from his own filthy mouth: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2000/02/18/ MN32194.DTL

 

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Wow, Mike, thanks for that link.  I had never seen evidence of it before, simply speculating on the state of mind of someone who goes through events like that.  Look, I'll sympathize greatly with anyone who experiences such horrors, but I won't hire them to be in charge of international relations!  Couldn't he have called his captors "F'in bastards" instead of "gooks"?
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Greg:  Wow, you're going to compare the father of America more than 2 centuries ago to the current state of affairs?

Absolutely I am.  Learn to think in principles.

Greg:  I'm not saying that a military man can't be a great leader, I'm saying that we shouldn't employ a man who spent the early part of his life learning how to kill, and was captured and tortured for years, into the position that is supposed to be leading the world in peace and diplomacy.

Many of our greatest presidents have shot and killed people.  That's the truth, and not just 230 years ago.

Greg:  Perhaps I'm biased as a teacher, but I feel we need to get leaders accustomed to picking up books instead of rifles.  We have a military; that's what they're for- just don't put a soldier into the presidency any more.

You're assuming that military men can't be intellectuals.  That's laughable on the face of things.

I'd much rather be governed by any random marine than any random faculty member of a university.  Also:  One of the PRIMARY duties of the president is to act as commander of our military forces, defending the United States, which often requires KILLING ENEMIES. 
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I just find the idea that a military man can't be an intellectual or must be some sort of emotionally stunted killing machine, unift for office, offensive on so many levels. As a former "grunt" and an intellectual.
If history has shown us anything, it is that many of the political leaders with actual wartime experience are the ones most keenly aware of the cost of war. The ones least inclined to enter into it without proper deliberation and good cause. And they're also the ones with the stomach for doing what needs to be done, whether it is to finish the job or withdraw.

Look at the Bush administration. Bush, with his inglorious military record is one of the most "military" men in his administration. Most of the rest are chickenhawks, who would gladly send other men to die for their country their place. Even when they themselves were young enough and fit enough to fight. 

(I am of course excluding Secretary Powell from that. I have nothing but respect for his courage and service and truly believe that he was shamefully used and overruled by less insightful members of  the Bush administration.)

If anything, the recent administration would be an argument in favor of encouraging seasoned, responsible and even-tempered military men to run for political office.

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