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Keith Elder
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Posted: 31 August 2008 at 3:35pm \| IP Logged \| 1

Rich wrote:

It remains my hope -and belief that the contempt for George Bush and the last 8 yrs. will trump evangelical love for a gun toting soccer mom. -It will do that, easily.

First: If you use 'gun toting soccer mom' as an insult, you're part of the problem with politics; you also aren't helping your candidate.

Second: The election will probably be close. We are fairly evenly split between the conservative and liberal extremes right now.

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My only worry is if the contempt for George Bush enough to sway white voters to vote for a black president.

Racists aren't your problem. Whites are split between the candidates. The election will be decided by voters who are currently undecided; and if they're undecided, they aren't racist. Stop seeing racism everywhere, and please, if Obama loses, please put more blame on the issues and not on racism.

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Our long national nightmare is 4 months from ending.

Cut back on the melodrama. It's just as lame now as when conservatives did it while Clinton was president.

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And just in case anyone wants to laugh about this disaster rather than cry

Let's see how it pans out before declaring it a disaster. Obama has been getting FAR more press than McCain, a SHAMEFUL amount more. Until yesterday, that is.

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Posted: 31 August 2008 at 3:48pm \| IP Logged \| 2

Hi, would one you young, internet savvy whipper snappers fix my youtube link so one does not have to cut and paste? Many thanks in advance.

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Knut Robert Knutsen
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Posted: 31 August 2008 at 4:12pm \| IP Logged \| 3

Well, I'm curious about the polls we'll get two weeks from now, when the people polled will have had a chance to make up their minds a bit more about Palin. I would especially like to see what the trend is with disgruntled Clinton democrats who said they might vote McCain. My bet is that Palin will scare them back into the fold. It will also be interesting to see just how the moderate republicans (and the log cabin republicans) react to Palin.

And the possible fallout from the investigation into her allegedly using her position to try to get her ex-brother-in-law fired. That's going to be interesting. VP candidates don't usually come with ready-to-print scandals as juicy as that.

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Rich Rice
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Posted: 31 August 2008 at 4:21pm \| IP Logged \| 4

My 'gun toting' comment is certainly meant to be an insult. -I wish it were the case that I could be more Christian about insults. Alas, I am not. When I get them, I am want to give them back.

I've spent the last 5 yrs. insulted that having a contrary view of our involvement in Iraq branded one as a non-patriot. A coward. And un-American.

George Bush silver spooned his way through Vietnam and John Kerry was swift boated. His response was far too weak. I am not so generous to speak kindly of people who seek to legislate whole segments of society outside the umbrella of government. In a pluralist society everyone deserves a place at the table and a hand in the pot. When you can find it within yourselves to lend dignity for those of the "L" word, I will gladly return the same. "Muccah", indeed.

I do not see race and racism everywhere. I have been in a mixed race relationship (black and white) for 33 solid, loving years. In our very quiet, undemonstrative way we have been a positive influence on both our families. I do not see a boogey man at every turn and corner. Should Obama lose, I won't jump to 'race' as the reason. More likely I will say to myself, "You get the government you deserve."

Melodrama?

If a trillion dollars wasted on a pointless war is mere melodrama, then why the concern over liberal spending? By your reasoning here, if the democrats win we too get a trillion dollar pass on spending. And you promise not to call that a national nightmare because THAT would be 'too melodramatic.'

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Christopher Alan Miller
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Posted: 31 August 2008 at 4:31pm \| IP Logged \| 5

You may not have noticed but George Bush isn't running for President this time.

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Bob Neill
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Posted: 31 August 2008 at 4:33pm \| IP Logged \| 6

Yes, he is. He's always been President, and will forever be the Republican nominee. That's the current strategy of the Democrats.

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Joe Zhang
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Posted: 31 August 2008 at 4:47pm \| IP Logged \| 7

McCain couldn't possibly do any worse than GWB. He's a crafty politician with a rich lifetime of experience; the one Republicans should have nominated in 2000. In a Palin presidency she could very well be surrounded by the same group of Neo-cons who led Bush and the entire country into war and economic disaster. In other words, with Palin a "third Bush term" is no longer just Democrat rhetoric.

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Christopher Alan Miller
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Posted: 31 August 2008 at 5:05pm \| IP Logged \| 8

If McCain was to die in office then Palin would inherit his cabinet not Bush's. There's nothing that ties her to the people around Bush.

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Posted: 31 August 2008 at 5:35pm \| IP Logged \| 9

Racists aren't your problem.
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They're by no means the only problem, but...

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William McCormick
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Posted: 31 August 2008 at 5:38pm \| IP Logged \| 10

You may not have noticed but George Bush isn't running for President this time.

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So. What does that have to do with the points Rich made?

Yes, he is. He's always been President, and will forever be the Republican nominee. That's the current strategy of the Democrats.

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No. Just that McCain offers nothing new. Just more of the same bullshit that Bush does.

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Posted: 31 August 2008 at 5:40pm \| IP Logged \| 11

Here you go Rich

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXUc5xojPiU

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Jodi Moisan
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Posted: 31 August 2008 at 7:15pm \| IP Logged \| 12

I am sorry but if Obama was named Larry Smith and he was white, this election would be a slam dunk, look there are bigots in my party, that will vote for the first time republican, because Obama is black. Democrats want to give people who are gay, equal rights, we lost Dems then too. We don't want to force religion down others throats, we lost Dems over that too. I say to those that left " Don't let the door hit you in the ass."

If you think the fact that Obama is black and it is not hurting him with some white voters, I will call you a liar. After picking "First I have to find out what a vice president does" Palin, a woman that lists soccer mom as her qualifications, if the team of McCain / Palin wins, then I will bitterly disappointed with the American people.

I've spent the last 5 yrs. insulted that having a contrary view of our involvement in Iraq branded one as a non-patriot. A coward. And un-American.

You go boy!

If McCain was to die in office then Palin would inherit his cabinet not Bush's. There's nothing that ties her to the people around Bush.

I am sorry but this woman is completely unprepared to run this country, and that tells me she can be manipulated, too many VP's have become presidents and I refuse to have another clueless puppet in charge. Also the fact she used her power to illegally fire her ex brother-in-law, so to hurt him in a custody fight, tells me she has a disregard for the law.

As McCains first big decision, he really screwed the pooch on this one.

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