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Al Cook
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There is no evidence in the video Christopher linked to suggest that Obama
is using an ear piece.
Even professional orators (my father is a minister) loose their place from
time to time.
Extra difficult in a town hall setting, with no notes and surrounded (literally)
by the audience. Throw in someone who is demanding an answer on a
different point than the one than you're trying to pursue (or who is just plain
old being a jackass and harassing you), and you might loose your train of
thought too.
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Scott Richards
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One thing I really liked that he said was the bit about stop giving 700 billion dollars in aid a year to countries who don't really like us.
It's about frickin' time.
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Dan Avenell
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The reaction to McCain's speech isn't great, the word 'boring' cropping up a lot. I think this might be another nail in the coffin. Palin certainly hit a home run with the religious right who may yet swing this thing as they did over gay marriage last time, but she may put off a lot of needed moderates (and the pro-choice), especially as the scandals stack up.
But at the top of the ticket is McCain, and anyone who saw last night's speech will not be fantasizing about going for a beer with this guy. 'Did I mention I was a POW' 'Yeah John, you did. A few times.'
McCain's speech was dull and he looked uncomfortable and delivered it bady. Ending with the bizarrely vague-but-tough 'Fight with me! Fight with me!' chant led by, let me be frank, a 72 year old man who can't put his arms above his shoulders. Sparta it wasn't
The message from the stage, repeated over and over, was that these two mavericks, McCain and Palin were going to go and shake things up in Washington. But will enough voters forget that the corrupt status quo are the very people at that convention, that Washington has been run for the last eight years by 'the mavericks' own party?
The chances of them pulling that off depend greatly on the audience's emotionally-driven suspension of disbelief. Had a charismatic, genuinely dynamic man (or woman) made last night's speech, as Palin demonstrated, that stuff sells whether it's full of holes and lies or not. But I think McCain just blew that with his lack-lustre, stilted, awkward call-to-arms.
I wouldn't be surprised if McCain's poll ratings will slip below 40% within a week. And that might be hard to recover from.
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Monte Gruhlke
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He could start by getting that $250 million back from Palin for the "Bridge to Nowhere" (the project hit the brakes when there was a public outcry for it, but Alaska still received the money for it, and an access road leading to the spot where the bridge will/would be is currently under on-going construction).
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Jodi Moisan
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There is no evidence in the video Christopher linked to suggest that Obama
is using an ear piece.
At the Obama event I worked, he used no earpiece, and people in the crowd where shouting out stuff in agreement, he got interrupted a bunch of times. You can tell that's whats happening in the video because he comments about the interruptions.
But at the top of the ticket is McCain, and anyone who saw last night's speech will not be fantasizing about going for a beer with this guy. 'Did I mention I was a POW' 'Yeah John, you did. A few times.'
Agreed with your whole post Dan, this is the question I had, why did everyone else tell the McCain POW story, they should have saved it for him to tell, he became likeable when he talked about it, but after hearing everyday of the convention, almost hourly about it, it lost some of it importance.
Edited by Jodi Moisan on 05 September 2008 at 7:15am
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Joe Zhang
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"700 billion dollars in aid a year"
Israel, the highest recipient of US "aid" gets around 2 billion a year. There are around 190 countries in the world. Dividing 698 billion by 188 countries gives us 3.7 billion per country other than Israel. That 700 billion number is an obvious exaggeration.
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Dave Pruitt
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Scott's misquoting or made a mistake in understandificating. McCain was talking about "sending" 700 Billion to oil producing countries that don't like us, and that use some of that money to fund terrorism. Saying we need to stop spending that much on foreign oil, not aid.
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Robin Taylor
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I have good news in that, after advising my friend to actually do a little research on Palin, she has come to understand Palin's legitimately reported statements in the past do not reflect the core values my friend has. So she is extremely disappointed she can no longer throw her virtual support behind Palin and is mad at me.
So I guess there is hope, if eveyone's friend's are a)willing to go out and inform themselves b)make choices based on what they believe, not race or gender.
RT
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Scott Richards
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Yep. I misunderstood his remark if that was what he was referring to.
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Kevin Hagerman
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You should never be angry to be informed, only mis-informed.
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Jodi Moisan
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After Palins speech the Republicans received 1 million dollars in donations, the democrats raised 8 million, I wish she would have spoke 2 nights. I will be interested to see what happened after McCain spoke.
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Brian Talley
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I will be interested to see what happened after McCain spoke.
Refunds.
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