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William McCormick Byrne Robotics Member

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Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.
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True. However The bill that allowed this to happen was supported by both parties overwhelmingly. They're all to blame.
Even then the bill didn't tell them to give $300,000 mortgages to single mothers with 2 kids who worked at a grocery store. They did that all on their own.
The democrats were nose deep with Fannie Mae and blocked EVERY attempt to stop what was obviously a huge problem.
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Why didn't Bush and a Republican controlled Congress do anything for the first 6 years of his presidency? How could they block it with both the Senate and the House having a Republican majority?
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William McCormick Byrne Robotics Member

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So Obama took campaign contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and that makes him somehow responsible for this mess?
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Kevin Hagerman Byrne Robotics Member

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Wright is in no way harmless.
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What danger does he pose?
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Thomas Woods Byrne Robotics Member

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William: "Why didn't Bush and a Republican controlled
Congress do anything for the first 6 years of his
presidency? How could they block it with both the Senate
and the House having a Republican majority?"
They did try William. After a harsh warning from
Greenspan they tried to do something in 2005. For the
first time in history, a serious Fannie and Freddie
reform bill was attempted. But that bill didn't become
law for one simple reason, democrats blocked it and with
heavy opposition Republicans couldn't even get the
Senate to vote on the matter. There are several sources
you can go to, both text and video that lays it all out
to see.
And several key democrats received shocking levels of
financial support from them over the years. The top 2
being Chris Dodd and Barack Obama.
Edited by Thomas Woods on 05 October 2008 at 11:58am
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Thomas Woods Byrne Robotics Member

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And in 2003, Straight from the New York Times
The Bush Administration today Recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago
Edited by Thomas Woods on 05 October 2008 at 12:09pm
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Michael Roberts Byrne Robotics Member

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And several key democrats received shocking levels of
financial support from them over the years. The top 2
being Chris Dodd and Barack Obama.
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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/19/fact-check-d id-obama-profit-from-fannie-and-freddie/
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Scott Richards Byrne Robotics Member

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I think you hold a deep bias against the man for no substantive reason.
Wow. Judge much?
I have a deep bias against the man for reasons I've posted previously in this thread. Feel free to go look them up. I'm not going to spoon feed you. Whether or not you agree with my reasons is irrelevant. Much like your comment above.
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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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Thomas Woods wrote:
And several key democrats received shocking levels of financial support from them over the years. The top 2 being Chris Dodd and Barack Obama. |
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Going by the link supplied by Michael Roberts above, I'd hardly call $126,349 "shocking levels of financial support". Also, given that McCain's campaign has profited from contributions in excess of $160,000 from directors, officers, and lobbyists of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac while those same individuals only contributed $16,000 to Obama, I think we can call this one a draw.
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William McCormick Byrne Robotics Member

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There are several sources you can go to, both text and video that lays it all out to see.
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Links.
Edited to add: Looking for one that specifically shows how the Dems blocked it. Seeing as how the Senate and the House were in Republican control at the time.
Edited by William McCormick on 05 October 2008 at 12:43pm
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Marcio Ferreira Byrne Robotics Member

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I am not a US citizen, but if I were to vote, I would vote for Obama. The main reason is because when you choose a candidate, you are not choosing just one person, but a whole package of policies.
I find it amazing that there are people willing to support the Republican party, even with the DISASTER administration they had in the past 8 years.
A war for oil in Iraq that made the price of gas in US jump to the roof. A huge financial crisis (legacy from the frantic deregulation fever).
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William McCormick Byrne Robotics Member

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Matt, don't go clouding the issue with facts.
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Scott Richards Byrne Robotics Member

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The war in Iraq is not what caused oil prices to skyrocket. I can't believe there is any one who actually believes that it did. And the financial crisis was caused by both parties but has it's roots in Democratic legislation. It just happened to come to a head during the Bush Presidency. The President has very little control over that. Congress is the one with the power there. The current Congress? Democratically controlled.
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