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Thomas Woods Byrne Robotics Member

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| Posted: 05 October 2008 at 6:18pm | IP Logged | 1
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I'm not saying, and never said, that all the blame is on
the democrats. I know there are mistakes all around. And
I did admit that in an earlier post.
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Mike O'Brien Byrne Robotics Member
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| Posted: 05 October 2008 at 6:20pm | IP Logged | 2
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Well... look. I'm not making this stuff up - I listen to this to and from work - so this week I'll bring a notebook with me and take notes as I drive.
And there's a world of difference between Don Imus and political talk radio. Maybe you're not familar with it? You should check it out - it makes this thread look like high tea with grandma. (or something - I don't know what white people do...)
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Mike O'Brien Byrne Robotics Member
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| Posted: 05 October 2008 at 6:22pm | IP Logged | 3
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Yeah - you're aiming at the Dems, but hey, if you're willing to admit that's bigger than that, I'm ok with that.
I do take you at your word - that's why I gave you benefit of the doubt.
Dude, and if you're saying you don't know, or haven't heard the types of things being said in certain forms of the media, then again, I'm sorry that you've been dragged into this maelstrom.
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Marcio Ferreira Byrne Robotics Member

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| Posted: 05 October 2008 at 6:35pm | IP Logged | 4
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Just one simple question:
Who thinks the Republican party and John McCain will shift from DEREGULATION to STRENGHT the regulatory environment?
Their proposal for health care is focused on... wait? DEREGULATION....
That and the war in Iraq... when Iraq attacked US??? NEVER. Osama Bin Laden did, and by the way HE is a product of CIA during Bush father run to fight Soviet Union in Afeganistan. So why leave Afeganistan behind and to war in Iraq??? Based on lies of Weapons of mass destruction NEVER found....
I am amazed that Republicans even have support... the media in US must be REALLY biased to hide the truth from the public.
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Christopher Alan Miller Byrne Robotics Member

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| Posted: 05 October 2008 at 6:42pm | IP Logged | 5
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HE is a product of CIA during Bush father run to fight Soviet Union in Afeganistan
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No he isn't. There's no evidence American aid went to Bin Laden and the Soviets withdrew from Afghanistan several weeks after Bush's father became President.
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Thomas Woods Byrne Robotics Member

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| Posted: 05 October 2008 at 6:48pm | IP Logged | 6
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"so this week I'll bring a notebook with me and take
notes as I drive."
I'm looking forward to hearing about it. But Mike, you
can't take every ill word against Obama as racist, which
I'm sure every word on these shows are. Every ill word
they had last election was against Kerry, and Gore
before him. They are obviously going to be against
Obama's democratic views. If you hear something above
and beyond that, then report it here.
If Clinton had won they would be doing the same to her.
Edited by Thomas Woods on 05 October 2008 at 6:49pm
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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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Thomas Woods wrote:
I am talking about the democratic party and how they were in the pocket of these organizations, blocking any form of trying to fix the problem when the alarms came up. |
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Debunked and debunked again. C'mon, Thomas. The entire Democratic party was in the pockets of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? Seriously? Please.
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Michael Roberts Byrne Robotics Member

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I am talking about the democratic party and how they
were in the pocket of these organizations, blocking any
form of trying to fix the problem when the alarms came
up.
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As mentioned earlier, there was a bipartisan bill from the House that the White House opposed.
The Democrats on the Senate Banking committee voted against S.190 because they wanted certain amendments in place.
http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-4747361/GSE-reform-b ill-clears-Senate.html
BOTH parties were trying to reform Fannie and Freddie Mac. BOTH parties failed to come up with a bipartisan solution. Trying to characterize it as the Democrats blocking any reform because they were in someone's pocket is wrong.
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Marcio Ferreira Byrne Robotics Member

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Christopher,
I meant Bush Father run on CIA, not presidency. And I would be amazed if there were "evidences" of any sort.
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Mike O'Brien Byrne Robotics Member
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But Mike, you can't take every ill word against Obama as racist, which I'm sure every word on these shows are
I agree! Most of them are just ignorant. But some do cross the line - Hannity going on and on about Michelle Obama's "Hate whitey" tape? What was that playing to, you know?
There's a lot of talk that's politics as usual, there's some that's just ignorant (mostly Hannity. God, that guy is a grade-a moron) but some does tip toe into the land of racail politics. Putting the onus of the financial crisis on Freddy and Fannie, while noting that it was a Dem program to give houses to poor people (That's their thoughts, not mine) - and then implying that those poor people are ethnic minorities...? That's the vibe I'm talking about.
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Christopher Alan Miller Byrne Robotics Member

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I meant Bush Father run on CIA, not presidency. And I would be amazed if there were "evidences" of any sort
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His father was the head of the CIA for less than a year during the Ford administration. Three years before the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. Try again.
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Marcio Ferreira Byrne Robotics Member

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Now, that racism is on the discussion, why call a black person "African American" and a white person "American"? should not be "European American" more precise? How about " Asian American" or "Native American". That is sooooo funny.
In Brazil, black people is just black people, and they wear T-shirt's with saying "Black is Beautiful". That is one of the few good things about my country, altought there is racism here, unfortunately. (I heard that Brazil has the second largest population of Black people in this planet, but not sure if the information is precise.)
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