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Scott Richards
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Don't you hate how work can intrude on our internet time?
LOL. It's fun trying to squeeze things in between meetings and phone calls
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Scott Richards
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The first 100 days. That's the grace period that a first term president usually gets, isn't it? Now, Obama is clearly a guy who can learn what needs to be learnt and put it into practice in 100 days. So is Biden and McCain. Sarah Palin? I have no confidence there.
Knut, based on her being able to hold her own against Biden, a 3 decade vet, after only 5 weeks, I think she's a sharp, quick study. Given 100 days I most definitely think she could be up to par. Had she fumbled the debate I would have agreed with you.
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Christopher Alan Miller
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Looks like I was wrong about the date of the last recession. Apparently the economists considering moving the date to 2000 never did so.
http://money.cnn.com/2004/01/22/news/economy/nber/index.htm
Though not yet in a recession the ecomony was not strong in 2000. The market had been falling since early in the year and the 3rd quarter had negative economic growth.
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Al Cook
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Wait. Didn't they change the rules of the debate just prior to it taking place
so they could be sure she wouldn't fumble?
Her own handlers have no faith in her abilities, but that shouldn't stop
anyone else, I guess.
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Todd Douglas
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QUOTE:
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Wow.
If that was "holding her own," I'd hate to see her looking ill-prepared, occasionally nonsensical, and parroting the same ol' talking points (even if they didn't have anything to do with the question asked).
Edited by Todd Douglas on 07 October 2008 at 1:49pm
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Al Cook
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But Todd, that's the mavericky way to do things, you betcha.
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Kevin Hagerman
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So what's the deal with the Alaskan Independence Party? Do they hold any substantial offices? Was there something fishy/controversial about how Alaska became a state?
Are they going to protect us when Rev. Jeremiah Wright begins his campaign of destruction?
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Christopher Alan Miller
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They were only given the option to become a state or stay a territory. Most don't want to be an independent country but they do want less federal control over Alaska. Their candidate was elected Governor in 1990.
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Greg Reeves
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QUOTE:
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There are teenagers that don't fumble in debate class all the time, yet that shouldn't be a criterion for presidency/vice-presidency.
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Kevin Hagerman
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They don't sound TOO fringe to me, then. I've read that one of their overweaning goals is to bring secession/non-secession to a vote. There may be members of the party who are more interested in the vote than the result, like people who are Pro-Choice but oppose Roe v. Wade because that is not how they would see choice implemented.
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Michael Myers
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"Read David Brooks today and forget about Charles Keating and William Ayers."
Geoff, you're obviously a Brooks' fan, but I've gotta ask, why? Is this a Republican in Texas contrasted with a Rebublican in New York state thing? Take this editorial. Am I the only cat who sees the irony of Brooks' talking about other people being disconnected? The same Brooks who said, to Chris Matthews, “One of the things I’ve found in life is that politicians are a lot more sincere than us journalists and we are more sincere than the people that read and watch us.”
This is the same cat who turned Friedman's death at 94 into an op-ed piece about how he, Brooks, is ultimately untutored in economic theory beyond his own history as a fledgling socialist. Once attempting to interject himself into a discussion among a group of economists, Brooks, by his own admission, turned red-faced and was forced to respond to one economist's rebuttal with, "I’m sorry, I couldn’t understand what you said.”
No, when I feel the pressing need to learn about internet dating or explore the workings of the modern neoconservative mindset, I'll read Brooks in a serious light. Remember, the WSJ kept him busy covering politics, not economic issues. If he was consistent in his opinions, I might be able to at least give him the benefit of the doubt; but he isn't consistent in his opinion on even basic issues.
Not for nothing is he regarded as the Left's former favorite "good" Republican, and the NY Times' pet, so-called 'conservative'.
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Christopher Alan Miller
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The founder of the party definately wanted Alaska to be an independent country but he's been dead for 15 years.
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