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Michael Myers
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I'd say McCain was a lot more contemptuous of Barney Frank and Chris
Dodd than he was of Senator Obama. In fact, I thought he was pretty contemptuous of people currently in his own political party, when he, once
more, paid homage at the altar of Teddy Roosevelt's big government
ideas while paying lip-service to President Reagan in the figurative
next breath.
McCain's new "Home Ownership Resurgence Plan" seems no different from
his support for what he used to call his HOME Plan. Introduced in April, it was, itself,
little more than a melding of Rep. Frank's and Sen. Dodd's competing
mortgage relief proposals. I listed it as a McCain negative back at
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beginning of September, in response to Jodi, and this new fiasco doesn't seem any different
save in name. Yet, all the news services are sounding like this just
came out of nowhere, even the WSJ.
It's just bigger and more brash (read expensive) under its new
labeling. And, with the same principal write down, same FHA
methodology, same equity provision, same
institutionalized devaluation
of the entire housing market, same potential for
trebling default rates, same buyout provisions, etc., of the old HOME
Plan. This was ALWAYS a bad idea...whatever
name he wants to slap on it, be it Dodd's Hope for Homeowners or
whatever Rep. Frank called his proposal in the House. And now, he's
dusted it off, plumped it up in price, and is trotting it out as something more than a token populist counter-balance? Now, he's serious about it and touts it as something he intends to actively pursue? Do we really want to have the government taking over the other
fifty-percent of all of America's outstanding bad mortgages, with mandated
write-downs? Hell, this is an encouragement to default. To say
nothing of the burden it places on those non-mortgage holders who rent
but who would still have to foot the bill; or an already
cash-strapped corporate lending market.
There was never a solidly Republican candidate running in this
campaign post-primaries, and the very idea of McCain thinking he can
out-populist Senator Obama demonstrates just how far off the tracks his
wreck of a campaign has gone.
You can stick two forks in this one.
Edited by Michael Myers on 07 October 2008 at 10:47pm
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Corey Johnson
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| Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:42pm | IP Logged | 2
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Words & phrases I'm officially tired of:
"My friends..."
"Maverick"
"Main street/Wall Street"
"Game changer"
"Fundamental difference"
"Thanks but no thanks"
"Clean coal" (does McCain even know what that is?)
I swear, both of these guys essentially regurgitate their convention speeches over and over until election.
Edited by Corey Johnson on 07 October 2008 at 10:42pm
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Rich Rice
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Yep. Done to a turn.
Winky, winky, winky, winky.
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Vinny Valenti
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Yeah, this debate was more or less a carbon copy of the last one. Yawn.
I do wonder how long it will take before the kooks out there try to accuse McCain for an ethnic slur over his use of "that one".
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Bob Neill
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I'm writing in Lex Luthor.
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Jason Czeskleba
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Jodi, did I miss something? What was your point in listing the Presidents from Truman to W. Bush on the previous page?
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Jodi Moisan
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It was a secret message that if you had a Byrne Decoder Ring and worked it right, it actually says:"If Palin gets in, we're screwed." LOL
No actually I posted those because I was curious to see who was in office during times of a recession. Because Christopher had said a statement I had made was wrong, but it ended up I wasn't .
A Byrne Decoder Ring would be pretty cool though. :0)
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Eric Smearman
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I'd rather have a Byrne Power Ring so that anything I draw looks like it was drawn by him.
Or Neal Adams.
Carry on...
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William McCormick
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You twist things all the time. You'll pull one little thing out of context in an entire post and then go off on some tangent about it as if that were what the entire post was about.
Your tactic gets old.
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Proof. Once again proof. Everyone on here picks little quotes and responds directly to them. How is that twisting? Why would I quote an entire post when all I'm responding to is one line? I took nothing out of context.
All I'm asking for is you to provide one post where me responding to someone elses quotes twisted what they said.
I've insulted you once by saying you were acting like an ass. If I pissed you off,I'm sorry. You can't even respond to anything I say without insulting me now. You repeatedly refuse to answer questions asked of you.
Here is the rest of the post you pulled one line out of and made it seem as if that was what the entire post was about:
The fact is the ties to the Alaska Independence are a lot stronger for the Palin's than the ties to Ayres are for Obama. I think it's safe to say Obama was never a member of the Weathermen.
Her husband was a member of the AIP. I find his statement that he never attended any meetings as flimsy as Clinton's that he didn't inhale. Why join if you didn't agree with the aims of the group? Do you know a lot of people who join organizations that they don't agree with?
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William McCormick
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I definitely think Obama won the debate. He seems confident and self assured. Is it just me or does McCain look stiff? He looks like he has a board under his jacket.
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Al Cook
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Because I know Mike O'Brien will have to have one:
Barack In The Box
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Kevin Hagerman
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Is it just me or does McCain look stiff? He looks like he has a board under his jacket.
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McCain's injuries were extensive and ill-treated, so no surprise there. The poor man is probably in constant pain as well. And the last two years of arthritis have taught me so much about chronic pain - in my case, I couldn't even stand at a podium for that long. The longer I stand still the more it hurts, until you just want to wring someone's neck.
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