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CJ Grebb
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Yet another testament to Republican achievement :
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I'm a left-leaning guy, Joe, but Democrats are not sinless when it comes to the National Debt. I'd hardly call it a "republican achievement."
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David Ferguson
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McCain Loses It?
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Jodi Moisan
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William is a good dude
I agree completely, did I come off snarky? If I did, I am sorry that was not my intent at all, I giggled at what he said about not fighting with Scott and feeling lonely. I look forward to Williams posts.
He's done this for quite a while, actually. McCain likes to portray himself as the guy everyone hates because he is so mavericky, but by the same token he wants everyone to think he's Mr. Bipartisen Legislation. The two really aren't compatible in my opinion.
Props for the use of "Mavericky" everytime I hear this now I think of the smurfs for some reason, I can see a cartoon called "The Mavericks" and they say things like "I 'm having a mavericky day!" LOL
Edited by Jodi Moisan on 09 October 2008 at 1:45pm
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Rich Rice
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Well, half of the deficit was accumulated during the last 8 yrs. -So to be more correct, half of it IS a republican achievement.
Both Parties share one thing in common: The numbers never add up. Unlikely with Obama. But certainly worse with McCain. From one side of his mouth, he says he will cut spending. And from the other side he shakes the Christmas Tree to the tune of 300 billion dollars. -In order to do both, his spending cuts would have to exceed 300 billion, just to keep us in our present levels of red ink. All the while, staying in Iraq until every soldier can come home holding his head high with 'victory.'
B. Winky. S.
And people buy into it because they prefer smoke up their rear.
'It's coming on Christmas
They're cutting down trees...'
More amazing, we have lost 2 trillion dollars in private wealth. Added over 1 trillion dollars to the debt in a few short weeks. And things are just getting warm.
Keep in mind, one of Osama's goals was to lure the U.S. into a war in the middle east, in the hope of creating a quagmire that would ultimately lead to the financial ruin of America. So far the terrorists are winning in spectacular fashion, as we are destroying ourselves from within, thanks to our errant logic. Bleeding deficits and whittling away at our democratic freedoms.
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Jodi Moisan
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According to my husband who is the CFO of his company, said if McCain gets in and gets that 5000 dollar health insurance credit passed, it will suck for the workers because companies will no longer pay for insurance. And there is no way you will be able to find insurance that is worth a damn for $5000. You will also be paying taxes on that money. This is a big help for businesses but a disaster for employees.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjxzmaXAg9E&eurl=http://w ww.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/09/mccain-palin-rally-attend_n _133240.html
Wow just Wow
Edited by Jodi Moisan on 09 October 2008 at 3:10pm
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Scott Richards
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Well, half of the deficit was accumulated during the last 8 yrs. -So to be more correct, half of it IS a republican achievement.
Not really. Spending can't happen without the approval of Congress so they are all responsible.
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David Ferguson
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Wow just Wow
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Yep. By their reasoning, I'm manager of the English Soccer Champions, Manchester United. Look at the name. It's in the blood.
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Mike O'Brien
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Well, half of the deficit was accumulated during the last 8 yrs. -So to be more correct, half of it IS a republican achievement.
Not really. Spending can't happen without the approval of Congress so they are all responsible.
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Scott - think you need to clarify here - the quote you link to suggests that "half of it IS a republican achievement", so not sure why you say "not really" and then "they are all responsible" - it sounds like you agree with his point. If Repubs are half responsible, then one presumes the other half is also to blame, and that would be the "all" that you speak of.
But... here's the trick - the original quote focuses on the last eight years - only 2 of those years had a Dem controlled congress. So six of the eight years we had Repubs in Congress and Presidency. So...it's all their fault there, no?
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Jeff Gillmer
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When the Republicans took the White House, the House and the Senate, they spent like drunken sailors on their first leave in 6 months. No question there. However, the Democrats did little or nothing to try to curb spending. Both parties love to spend the money like it's someone else's (which it is). Trying to cast blame on just one side or the other is silly.
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Matt Reed
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It's not silly given the current economic situation. Yes, Democrats certainly have a history of spending more than their Republican counterparts. But we're not talking historically. We're talking about the mess we are in right now and one certainly can't argue that the bulk of the spending during the Bush years can be laid squarely at the feet of the administration and Republicans that controlled the purse strings for 6 of his 8 years in office. Jeff, are you seriously suggesting that Democrats could have fiscally turned things around in the two years they've been in control?
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Scott Richards
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But... here's the trick - the original quote focuses on the last eight
years - only 2 of those years had a Dem controlled congress. So six of
the eight years we had Repubs in Congress and Presidency. So...it's
all their fault there, no?
Not really Mike. Using your logic (spending control = full responsibility) then since everything didn't crash until Democrats were in control of Congress for the last couple of years, it falls fully on them. I don't think that's where you meant to head. That's why I was making the point that the blame (and accomplishments) fall on both sides.
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Wallace Sellars
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Some interesting data on the race factor and voting. Gallup reports that
there is a slightly higher percentage who will vote for Obama because of his
race compared to those who will not.
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Conversely, I read somewhere today that Obama's race alone loses him
as many as six points.
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