Joe - I posted a link to his column a few pages back!  It's a good read.

David - I thought about mentioning that - like - "see what Bush got ya!" - but I think, at this point, those who are clinging to Palin are the types who don't see the Bush Presidency for what it was, so they'd be like "Uh, yeah, your point?"

I totally hear you though when you bring up checks and balances - I'm all for it.  Having said that - if you're thinking of voting McCain/Palin just to keep things balanced - keep this in mind:  McCain/Palin would be terrible for America, and the Republicans would just bounce back in 2010 and retake congress anyway, so it would only last two years.

Joe - to piggyback on your thought - I can't blame him for being fed up with Republicans as a whole - but me saying that means nothing - I'm a life-long Democrat.  Of course I think the Republicans are something to shy away from.

BUT - having said that - I think it's possible to step away from things and take a good look at things: Clearly, the Republican party has become too mired in the worst aspects of it.  If the Democrats actually became the party that right wingers say they are - if they were filled with Green Party Fascist nuts?  I'd drop the Dems like a hot rock.  And I think a lot of decent Republicans are looking around at the Fundamentalists, the corporate whores, the hypocritical sexual deviants and have just had enough.  The current Republican party is NOT the Party of Lincoln.  Of Teddy Roosevelt.  Of Dwight Eisenhower.  Hell, it's not even living up to Nixon's standards.

I'm not saying this as a Democrat - as was noted earlier in this very thread - I was willing to walk away from the Dems if Hillary was the Candidate - and there are all sorts of other people running with D's next to their name that horrify me.   I'm making this judgement as a student of history, not a partisan.

Republicans are looking around at the Fundamentalists, the corporate whores, the hypocritical sexual deviants and have just had enough. 

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You just described me (and a bunch of my Republican friends) perfectly, Mike.

You just described me (and a bunch of my Republican friends) perfectly, Mike

LOL you were being funny weren't you?

Virginia upholds ban on political clothing at polling places

Wow I don't know how they are getting this thru, I would make sure to have a blanket at the polls if I was working. Indiana is the same as Maryland. Is Virginia a red state? Pretty smart if the republicans got this thru, because more than likely it will be Obama supporters that will wear the t-shirts.

Indiana and Maryland voters are welcome to wear clothing or buttons, but the same cannot be said for poll workers, election judges, or others stationed inside a polling place

Mike you would vote McCain /Palin if hillary was the dems choice?

he's pretty much fed up with what's become of the entire Republican party, not just McCain.

I watched a biography on McCain tonight and when it got done I was so sad, I saw the old McCain in some early news footage the McCain that I had hoped would become a Biden/McCain or McCain/Biden ticket. I did not know at one time the democrats courted him to switch parties and he had considered it. I never had a problem with him being a republican, I just wanted a moderate one.  I got sad thinking about what our country may have been like if he had not gotten chewed up by the Rove/Bush swiftboat machine. I did not realize to what length they attacked McCain.

When they showed the press conference where McCain endorsed Bush I saw a broken man. From that point on I believe he felt like he had sold his soul to the devil. He pandered to the far right in his party, he stopped being John McCain. The fact that they shoved Palin at him just added insult to injury. If the old McCain had stayed true and picked Lieberman, we would be looking at a different election.

Aren't you a democrat Kevin? LOL

 If there is a sexual scandal involving a man and a woman, it's almost always a democrat.

LOL you were being funny weren't you?

Actually, Jodi, I wasn't.  And I hope there are more of us. 

The fact that they shoved Palin at him just added insult to injury

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Who do you thimk shoved Palin at him?

God ! 

That was a great set-up for you Joe,  pretty funny.

Who do you thimk shoved Palin at him?

I knew this but not to the extent it was but McCain was almost hated by the far right of his party, they showed him speaking at an earlier convention and there were some that boo'd (sp?) him. I believe it was the convention that W got the nod the first time from his party.

I think he honestly wanted to go with Lieberman but those on the far right threatened to go against him if he did, Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh both said they wouldn't vote for him, I think he went with Palin to make those types in his party happy.

Christopher do you think Palin was his first choice?