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Christopher Alan Miller
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No way in hell was he picking Lieberman. It doesn't matter how much he personally liked the guy there's no way that ticket could've won. It would be like Obama picking Pat Buchanan.  His first choice was probably something safe and boring like Romney or Pawlenty but he was smart enough to see that was a dead end.

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Rich Rice
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Well, as of today we do know his choice to lead his transition team is William Timmons, a Washington Lobbyist who worked on behalf of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein to ease international sanctions against his regime after the first Gulf war.

The man is clearly surrounded by a circus.

Palin? Timmons? The Change we need???

Heaven help us.


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I'll wait for a source more reliable than the Huffington Post before I accuse Timmons of doing anything wrong.

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No way in hell was he picking Lieberman. It doesn't matter how much he personally liked the guy there's no way that ticket could've won. It would be like Obama picking Pat Buchanan.  His first choice was probably something safe and boring like Romney or Pawlenty but he was smart enough to see that was a dead end.

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As opposed to Palin?

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Christopher Alan Miller
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McCain isn't losing because of Palin.

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Tonight's debate should be very interesting viewing. Recent articles showed McCain not gaining ground outside his base due in part to the use of attack ads against Obama, while the more vocal among his base are asking him to step up the attack on Obama. McCain would appear to be in a no-win position. I'm not sure how he can gain ground without losing the support he has currently. A tough position to be in.



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 Jodi Moisan wrote:
Aren't you a democrat Kevin?

Nope, just a deviant!  Well, a hopeful deviant.  But there's so many lesbians around here, pointedly ignoring me!  Some of them even get married and have children to throw me off the trail.  But I ain't fooled.  Lesbians.

In truth, I'm a social liberal and an economic weather vane (everything sounds good all the time; my "opinions" are often based on the last person I talked to).

 Jason Czesklba wrote:
I think Obama and a Democratic Congress would be inclined to be much less partisan than the Republicans were in 2002 and 2004.

They'd better be.  I'm sick of this shit.

Look: I'm voting for Obama, and I am going to be pulling for whoever gets elected to lead us onward and upward.  But I intend to hold their feet to the fire and my vote is for THIS election only.  To paraphrase Val Kilmer from Kiss Kiss Bang Bang: "Okay, you've got four of my fucking years; thrill me."

Having said that: can anyone recommend a good non-partisan watchdog group that expects accountability from our public servants?

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No way in hell was he picking Lieberman. It doesn't matter how much he personally liked the guy there's no way that ticket could've won. It would be like Obama picking Pat Buchanan.

Seeing how Pat Buchanan hasn't worked with Obama, been friends with Obama, spoke in support at the opposing parties convention, I would say your comparison isn't close to the same.

McCain isn't losing because of Palin.

I'll wait for a more realiable source than you Christopher. LOL (Kidding with him, yeesh) 

like:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/163348

The Alantic:

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/10/on_the_ other_hand_new_polls_ci.php

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/06/palin-charac ter-attack-on-obama-may-hurt-mccain/

There's a ton of these, I could list more.

edited to add:

Nope, just a deviant!  Well, a hopeful deviant.  But there's so many lesbians around here, pointedly ignoring me!  Some of them even get married and have children to throw me off the trail.  But I ain't fooled.  Lesbians.

Kevin that was funny.



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"[McCain] knows, in his gut, that he put somebody unqualified on the ballot... He put somebody unqualified on that ballot and he put the country at risk, he knows that."
-- GOP strategist Matthew Dowd
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McCain isn't losing because of Palin.

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I've been a Democrat all my life and I can tell you for a fact that without exception all the independent voters that come into the Obama office where I volunteer swung to Obama because of Palin. People I work with that were undecided have told me the same thing.

She really worries them. She may not be the entire reason, but she certainly is a part of it.

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No way in hell was he picking Lieberman. It doesn't matter how much he personally liked the guy there's no way that ticket could've won.

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I disagree. The more moderate leaning independent voters may have swung to his side. The people who supported Hillary but not Obama may have swung to him. And there is no way in hell that any hardcore conservative Republican would ever vote for Obama. I think this race would be much tighter if he had picked Leiberman.

I think many of you are really underestimating how much middle of the road moderate independents dislike Palin. It may not be that way everywhere but it most definitely is around here.

To many of them her talk about god and her stance on abortion and gay marriage remind them just a little too much of he who must not be named.

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Posted: 15 October 2008 at 6:53am | IP Logged | 12  

McCain isn't losing because of Palin.

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Agreed. The people here who don't like Palin wouldn't vote for a Republican ticket anyway. Palin helped McCain with the gender gap and energized the social conservatives, who were lukewarm toward McCain. McCain got a nice bounce in the polls after nominating her. 

Besides, no Vice-Presidential candidate has ever won or lost an election. Palin & Biden are supporting players, not the lead actors. Remember, this is the Presidential election. America elected Dan Quayle as VP. America elected Walter Mondale as VP, then wholeheartedly rejected him when he ran for president in 1984. In the end, it all comes down to McCain vs. Obama.

The reason McCain is losing -- and will lose the election -- is because the economy is in the tank. If you look back at past economic crises, Americans want a change in the party running the White House when the economy goes south -- FDR replacing Herbert Hoover in 1928 and Ronald Reagan replacing Jimmy Carter in 1980 spring to mind.

 

 

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