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Al Cook Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 21 December 2004 Posts: 12734
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| Posted: 16 October 2008 at 8:06am | IP Logged | 1
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Remember - the Secret Service only hear half of what's said.
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Michael Penn Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 12 April 2006 Location: United States Posts: 13153
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| Posted: 16 October 2008 at 8:38am | IP Logged | 2
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McCain consistently slugged Obama with snappy attacking catchphrases ("spread the wealth!") and Obama looked a little too tired to deal with them. McCain "won," but it won't matter. Obama was a disappointment. He played safe, retreating to his own somewhat stale generalities and rehashing of previously better-stated policies. I'm a little troubled that Obama doesn't always bring his "A" game. Coasting? Complacent? Over-confident?
Ah, McCain. He blew it. Palin? Sheesh. He could have been armed with Romney, an expert on the economy, as VP, and with Guiliani, the former Manhattan DA and terror of Wall Street, as his putative Attorney General. Coming into these last weeks, what would that have shown to the nation? Oh well.
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Michael Myers Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 28 December 2004 Posts: 831
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and.... Senator McCain's best presidential debate performance was last night, by far.
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Andrew Hess Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 9847
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| Posted: 16 October 2008 at 9:01am | IP Logged | 4
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Jodi said, in part: "I just went to the site and that came up I didn't even answer a question, how did they come to that? How does the site work? "
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Sorry, late to the party again...
I'm with Jodi on this. I put off clicking thru to take the quiz. When I did this morning, when the window popped up it gave me the results tho I hadn't answered anything.
And even tho he is #5 on the list, the site is all excited to tell me all about John McCain: little bio, how similar our beliefs are.
Another example of vote tampering? I feel like Florida.
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Kevin Brown Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 31 May 2005 Location: United States Posts: 9126
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| Posted: 16 October 2008 at 9:16am | IP Logged | 5
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I don't understand how people can keep saying that Obama lost the debate, not when there are moments like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T1-qwL5u5A&feature=relat ed
What McCain needed last night was a 5 run HR in the bottom of 9th. Just ain't gonna happen. He was feisty, itching for a fight in the beginning, but as the night wore on he just looked more and more like a bully. He never got a rise out of Obama. And all McCain ended up doing was make Obama look even more Presidential by allowing Obama to come off looking cool, calm, & collected.
Yes, this was McCain's strongest debate yet, but it was too little too late. It was not a solid win for Obama, but it certainly was not a loss.
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Andrew Hess Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 9847
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| Posted: 16 October 2008 at 9:22am | IP Logged | 6
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Once I actually (yes, actually) took the quiz...
78% Obama 75% McKinney 72% Nader 68% McCain
BEFORE I took the quiz, my unstated opinions matched...
90% McKinney 90% Nader 71% Obama 40% McCain
So, I agree with Obama a little more than they thought, but
(treating this poll like McCain and Palin have been treated in the debates)
an OVERWHELMING victory for McCain! He shot up *18%* in the polls! This is a great day for McCain, coming in fourth place, but MUCH BETTER than EXPECTED!
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Al Cook Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 21 December 2004 Posts: 12734
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Kinda makes you feel all mavericky, doesn't it Andrew?
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Jeff Gillmer Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 30 August 2004 Location: United States Posts: 1920
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If Obama wins, at least we have several years of this to look forward to... Biden Counting
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Geoff Gibson Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 21 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 5744
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I think the things to look for over the next three weeks are (1) if Obama gets complacent and (2) Palin starts thinking about (and working toward) 2012. Obviously that assumes that economy is in the same state and world conditions are unchanged (admittidly big assumptions!).
Edited by Geoff Gibson on 16 October 2008 at 9:39am
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Andrew Hess Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 9847
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| Posted: 16 October 2008 at 10:00am | IP Logged | 10
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oh, Jeff, let's not start with that.
The position of Vice President has been a very sheltered one, up until Dick "I'm My Own Branch" Cheney started abusing the office. What the person does in that office is usually completely under the radar, up until they mis-spell words and get joked about on the evening news.
But since you bring it up: you honestly think that Biden, who has a proven track record working on foreign policy, etc, will be worse in office than Palin because he talks before he thinks sometimes? And what about Palin? You think her speeches inciting audiences will be a good match for our country? You think her interview with Couric, one of the few times we have gotten to hear what she thinks about anything other than hating Obama, put her in the best light?
I'm all tingly waiting for your response.
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Andrew Hess Byrne Robotics Member

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But, y'know Jeff, at least Biden made an attempt at counting.
Which is better than McCain, right? He needs his staff to help him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhuMgUkiVOY
And now, you can too!
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Christopher Alan Miller Byrne Robotics Member

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I don't see Palin running for President in 2012 if Obama wins. I think she would go for the Senate first then possibly run for President in 2016.
Bobby Jindal could be someone to watch for in 2012.
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