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Michael Myers
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Electoral College System? We've been there, at least twice.
Here's one instance:
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Bruce Buchanan
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No system is perfect. But I think our electoral system works as well as any. I see no reason to change it.
And Al, we'll change our Electoral College when you guys stop writing words like "color" and "honor" without that extraneous "u"!
Oh, and there are four downs in the game of football, not three!
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Al Cook
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Yeah - that's a perfect example, Michael. Nothing there caused me to grow
even the minutest amount of respect for the Electoral College system. There
have been even better discussions of it here on this very board, and I've
eagerly followed a number elsewhere, too.
Thanks for the link - giving it a re-read now.
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Geoff Gibson
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Oh, and there are four downs in the game of football, not three!
When I play Madden I don't punt -- I use all four downs and live with the consequences!
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Al Cook
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Bruce, you can pick on Canadian spelling all you want, but with football
you've crossed the line, sir!
Deuling pistols at dawn! We start back to back at the 55-Yard line!
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Todd Douglas
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I call hogwash, Bruce.
What's more representative than "one person=one vote?" I'd even go so far as to say the "winner take all" structure of the Electoral College effectively mis-represents a significant portion of the population. If (going back to my earlier example and making it a squeaker), Candidate A receives 47% of State's popular vote, Candidate B receives 46%, and Candidate C gets 7%, the Electoral College applying all of State's electoral votes for Candidate A is saying, "All of the citizens of State vote for Candidate A." That's not anything remotely resembling an accurate representation of the votes.
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Geoff Gibson
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Will you be a Toronto Bills fan Al, when the NFL moves into the great White North?
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Bruce Buchanan
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Todd, I'll defer to Michael Myers, who in January said it better than I could:
"...the Electoral College system is designed to tamp down the notion of unchecked influence of large clusters of the national body politic and to force candidates for the executive to at least voice an understanding of the differing interests and concerns of our entire, national body politic."
Again, though, just my opinion.
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Michael Roberts
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I think American Idol is proof that Tocqueville was right about the "tyranny of the majority" and that direct democracy is not a good idea.
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Bruce Buchanan
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Al, from what little I've seen, I actually dig the freewheeling Canadian style of football. I wish the CFL came on TV here in the States. Long live the Grey Cup!
(Now, Australian Football...that I just don't get. It appears to be a protracted game of "Kill the man with the ball.")
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Al Cook
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Nope. Not a Bills fan now, and not much of an NFL fan.
(The Bills can rot in hell for all eternity (Sorry William!) for how they blew it
in '99 for not playing Flutie in the playoffs. Who the #@#% do you think got
you there?!?!)
Sadly for many, I suspect that the NFL ever coming our way is a pipe dream.
Really enjoy your college ball, though.
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Michael Myers
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| Posted: 22 October 2008 at 10:06am | IP Logged | 12
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Dig, Al. There was a longer thread, but its title eludes me.
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No, Todd. The state is not saying ""All of the citizens of State vote
for Candidate A," its simply expressing the plurality of the will of
its citizens in casting that state's slate. If the citizens comprising that state wish to do
otherwise--a'la districting or whatever--then they are free to pursue
adoption of such apportionment methods. We do not have a national election for the office of the President of the United States; all eligible voters cast their vote only for their state's respective slate of electors. One person, one vote...period. That's our Union.
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