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Mike O'Brien
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Posted: 24 October 2008 at 2:30pm | IP Logged | 1  

Ha ha ha... that's a funny Dr Savage impression, Andrew!

 

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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/22/palin-god-wi ll-do-the-right-thing-on-election-day/?ref =

So... what is Palin saying now?  That... God endorses Obama? 

Obviously, an intellegent person would read that as - you know - God always does the right thing all the time because it's God and God is infallable... but then... if God does "choose" Obama... was she working against God's will to run against Obama.. or...

She so crazy.

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Hm... if only anyone took FOX News seriously...

http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/23/jmoody_1023/

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Mike, Mike, Mike . . . . these are eternal mysteries.  Like the trinity, transubstantiation and how one sock always disappears in the wash.  You must not ask such questions.  Do you want to play bingo?
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heh....
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Michael Penn
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Of course Palin has faith. God chose Bush, so....
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Geoff,

Even when I was a Catholic, I never completely bought into the whole "transubstantiation" thing.  It pops into my head every so often, so I did some reading on it, and apparently the Catholic Church has "qualified" what it means by "transubstantation" --- namely, they concede that a scientific examination of a "transubstantiated" communion wafer will still detect plain old flour and water.. and just plain old flour and water.  Translation: everything you heard was a lie... so, nevermind.

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Transubstantiation = ritual cannibalism.
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I was told that the communion wafer became flesh the instant it touched our lips - but it was free to change BACK to a wafer, should anyone be, I dunno, evil and doomed to hell enough to try and verify this.
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Ultimately, transubstantiation is a good thing because it gave us a KILLER Tom Lehrer lyric: "When in doubt do like a Roman/Make a cross on your abdomen/Two, four, six, eight/Time to transubstantiate!"

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Work for welfare locks you into a low paying job (well, you're basically paid nothing outside of your welfare check, but that's not it.) that makes it more difficult for you to look for another or seek out job training that will enable you to get better employment in the future.

So?  That puts them on equal footing with people who aren't on welfare that want to better themselves.  The people who have to look for new or better jobs on their own time.  The people who have to seek new education and job training on their own time.  Actually, the people on welfare have one step up in that they can get free job training that people not on welfare can't get.  So again, there is no reason people can't be expected to work for their wage whether that wage is paid by a business owner or paid by tax dollars.
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"Actually, the people on welfare have one step up in that they can get free job training that people not on welfare can't get. "

As I pointed out in my original post, not if the "job training" they get is only for jobs that they're only eligible for as long as they're on welfare, because the "welfare workers" are cheaper and more convenient for the employers. That's the same problem as arises with a lot of "job training" in "for profit" prisons. The prisoners "train" for jobs that are not open to non-prisoners, because even at minimum wage, they'd cost too much.

A "welfare work" program only works if they start on the job, train on the job while on welfare, then transition into holding the very same job off welfare. But a lot of employers exploit the system (I know it's happened in your country, something similar happens often in my country as well) by getting "trainee welfare workers", then, when they're asked whether they want to hire these people for real, suddenly they're no good.

A lot of employers are in favor of "welfare workers" because they're cheap, "disposable" labor. Hey, I'd like nothing more than to think that employers who hire "welfare workers" or people in job training programs to get people off welfare , are eager to hire these people to work for them at a decent wage. Some employers are like that. Others just see these programs as subsidized labor and have no intention of converting from subsidized labor to real (and more expensive) labor.

But then again, it's okay for people with money to abuse the system.

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