Did anybody see DAG's "Chocolate News"? I have to say, his election coverage was a breath of fresh air. (I know it's sketch comedy, not news, but he had some really good ones.)

I especially liked his bit about Obama being too white.

Wow she really is an outsider, reformer non political type

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20081025/Palin .Pipeline/

Palin's skanky teen daughter

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You're a really classy guy.

That he is - and truthfull, too.  She is 17, ergo, a teen, and being pregnant at 17, we know she was having underage sex, ergo, skanky.

Unless... there's something about her parentage that we don't know about?  Is she not, in fact, Sarah Palin's daughter?

So teens who get pregnant then marry are skanky? Like Barack Obama's mother?

17 isn't underage either.

Weeeeelll...

Obama's mom was an 18 year old college student.  (Was 18 when Barack was conceived, too)

Bristol Palin is a 17 year old high school student.

You are correct - I was using California's guidelines - we wait till 18, but it is, in fact, legal for a 17 year old to have sex in Alaska.

Now - definition of "Skank":

1. One who is disgustingly foul or filthy and often considered sexually promiscuous. Used especially of a woman or girl.

Finally, let's be clear here.  Are you are suggesting there is something good and decent and wholesome about some high school student getting knocked up?  Are you are celebrating impregnating someone who is not old enough to vote? 

Hm... "someone who is disgustingly foul or filthy... "

hm...

Now - let me clear something up here... Personally, I wouldn't have dragged Bristol Palin into this.  As far as I can remember (and I'm sure some bright spark will correct me if I'm wrong) I don't think I've involved Palin's kids in the discussion on this board. 

I have to be 100% honest here - full disclosure - the reason I'm going to such great lengths to make such a point?   It's a reaction to Chris.  Mark made some really great points, and all Chris takes away from it is to snarkily add that it's not nice to call a Palin's daughter a name that kind of suits her.

Chris - where's your disgust over the comments in the video that Mark was referring to?  I'm sure you are just as disgusted as the rest of us.  I've read your posts - I disagree with like, 110% of them (that's me disagreeing with what you'll say in the future, too), but I can tell you're not some evil bigot.  So, why waste time playing this partisan game.  Why single out Mark's note about skank?  It just makes you look bad.  You may not realize how it appears - I give you that benefit of doubt here, but it comes off to me like, "Yeah, what the people said in that video is fine, but how dare he say something about Palin's daughter!!" 

And I'm pretty sure that's not what you're thinking. 

Let me make this more clear so it's not misunderstood: If someone posted a post that said: "Bristol Palin is a whore", and you took note and stated your displeasure, it would be 100% understandable.  Mark, however, wrote a lengthy post about his frustrations with the level of discourse in America - the hatred and ignorance, and burried in the middle of it - like, you have to dig a ways to find this - he tosses off a bon mot whereby he uses the adjective "skank" to describe knocked up high schooler Bristol Palin.  You know, you could almost read Mark's use of "skank", in context, as intentionally ironic.

But, like... all you took away from Mark's thoughts was that he called her a skank?  Surely you had more thoughts about what he said, but all you broadcasted was the thoughts on the word skank.

Now, moving along - I feel kind of petty sitting here defending calling that kid a skank.  Whatever - she likes to screw - who here doesn't?  It's natural.  Power to her.  In fact... if 17 is legal in Alaska, I'm booking a ticket to get some Alaskan high school tang.  ((sigh... no NOT REALLY... just trying to cheer up the conversation...))

But I don't feel TOO bad knocking the Palin family on this.  Why?  Because the Republicans in general, and the fundementalist wing of the Republican party in particular, position themselves as morally superior to the rest of us.  So it is very much called for to publically shame them when they break their own rules.  Which happens with such a frequency that it's becoming less funny and more of a liability for that wing of the party. 

But look - I won't defend the use of skank anymore - it's not what I would have called her, and I don't know that she really deserves it.  But I do not think it invalidates Mark's great post.  

The line has been "pals around with terrorists."

No doubt Obama downplayed and obfuscated his connections with Ayers, and it was right to call him out on that. But McCain/Palin labeling them "pals" is deliberately sloppy diction and using the plural "terrorists" is mendaciously provocative.

Ayer's wife was also a terrorist.

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And your point is............