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Bruce Buchanan
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Posted: 27 October 2008 at 8:04am | IP Logged | 1  

But I don't think that Obama knowing him be it sitting on a board or having a fundraiser at his house* is a reason to tar Obama. 

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Neither do I! That's why I said: "Having said that, Barack Obama shouldn't be linked to these terrorists in any way. He has rightly condemned Ayers and explained that their association was cursory at most."

And I think Ayers owes society an apology, even though he is a private citizen and not a candidate for office. His crimes were designed for maximum public impact, so his apology should be equally public. His need to apologize has nothing to do with the Obama candidancy and everything to do with his obligation to make right what he did wrong.  

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You're right Burce.  That isn't the majority of Obama supporters, no more than someone yelling something awful at a McCain or Palin is reflective of McCain supporters.  The part that really gets me is the quote from the *cough* artist.

"I know if we had done it with Barack Obama, people would've probably thrown things through our windows,"

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Posted: 27 October 2008 at 8:09am | IP Logged | 3  

...can't wait for this election to be over..........

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Bruce Buchanan
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Mike, no one is (or should be) disputing that the lynching of African-Americans is a tragic part of our nation's history. That's indisputable. But it doesn't make this anti-Palin display any less wrong.

As I said when the Obama effigy story broke a few weeks back, hanging an effigy isn't a political statement. It's an implied threat of physical violence -- "This could be you." There's no place for that in a civilized society. Personally, I think this "artist" should be brought up on criminal charges - as should the cretins responsible for the Obama effigy.



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Posted: 27 October 2008 at 8:14am | IP Logged | 5  

It's unfortunate, Geoff.  Because though many do not want to face the reality of it, there is a difference between blacks and whites in America.  Seeing someone hanging from a tree has a different historical context to blacks than to whites. 

I couldn't agree more, Mike, which is why I had a more vitriolic response to the Obama effigy some pages back.  But I do think the Palin effiegy is tasteless and a poor excercise of expression. Savy, my man?

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Posted: 27 October 2008 at 8:17am | IP Logged | 6  

Bruce:

I got what you meant. I was doing some post -post clarification of my post earlier.  I didn't mean to "muddy your waters."  Mea culpa!



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...can't wait for this election to be over..........

I'm with Penn... and to think, there are STILL "undecideds" out there!

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The man credited for starting the "Obama is a secret Muslim" meme has now refuted that story... because he claims that Obama's real father is poet and activist Frank Marshall Black, who was investigated by HUAC for Communist ties.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/10/27/obama.m uslim.rumor.cnn


I'm waiting for this guy to break the story that Obama is also a secret Nazi.
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The effigy is horrid. However, in this race, Palin was the one who started with the hate politics. 
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Another fun halloween display

http://www.stargazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/200810 14/NEWS01/810140328

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Bruce Buchanan
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The man credited for starting the "Obama is a secret Muslim" meme has now refuted that story... because he claims that Obama's real father is poet and activist Frank Marshall Black, who was investigated by HUAC for Communist ties.

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I thought Obama cleared that up the other week. His real father is named Jor-El and he sent his son to Earth from the planet Krypton.

 

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I thought Obama cleared that up the other week. His real father is named Jor-El and he sent his son to Earth from the planet Krypton.

Uh-oh! Obama is an illegal alien?!?!?  I knew they just wanted to steal our jobs!!!!



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